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We have an offense stacked with draft picks and an OL stacked with incredibly good free agents. We have a top 15 back at minimum (imo Chuba is better than that). We have the top WR drafted last year. Yeah they'll all make mistakes. Yes they all look bad sometimes. But Bryce is just not helping his teammates. Even in his good games he would sometimes go through stretches of pretty bad play. At this point I think XL isn't very good, but heck maybe if he bad a different QB throwing to him he wouldn't look so bad this year... Because basically everyone not named Adam Thielen only looks meh with Young behind centre.

I don't think you want conversation unless it aligns with your cheerleading viewpoint. But that's okay. You're welcome to feel that way. And I'm welcome to think you're just an apologist for a terrible front office and ownership.

Yeah we finally need to have this discussion

I'd be down but I can't drive anymore because of my health, hence why I'm doing virtual through discord and VTT.

Keep pounding.

lol

Bryce has been killing people since his first season. Hayden hurst never played again https://x.com/avl_mike/status/1732541835011113395?s=46 Legette has never made a catch since this https://x.com/mysportsupdate/status/1865822057725821072?s=46 bryce also almost got sanders killed on a deep cross by he was smart enough to dive to the ground instantly like getting receivers killed is what Bryce does

I literally used your own words and put in a 7th round QB who turned out to be great and a first overall pick who turned out to be a dud. It's to illustration my point that it really doesn't matter where you are drafted. I can lead you to the water but I can't make you drink. By your own logic Purdy should have never seen the field and been cut if draft position really matters as it relates to your play on the field.

Am I in a different thread? Can someone make a thread to discuss if we should should have picked CJ?

Brock Purdy is good though and Lance sucks like Young. What's your point?

Jesus Christ shut the fug up

Draft position does matter though, if Brock Purdy was drafted in the 7th round he would have never seen the field and probably would have been cut by now. Its very different when you trade the farm for a #1 overall pick like Trey Lance.

The problem isn't just that we traded up we traded up gave up a haul and took the physical outlier instead of the best pure passer.

Sure. Fine. What does that have to do with the path forward or the original question posed? I wasn't crazy about the trade up either but I understand it after all the strikeouts trying to find a good QB over the last 5-7 years.

Draft position does matter though, if young was drafted in the 4th round he would have never seen the field and probably would have been cut by now. Its very different when you trade the farm for a #1 overall pick.

Yes, Bryce could have throw it a tad shorter. Renfrow could have also not jumped or he could have throttled his route like Sanders did in the clip I shared. Who is this NFL QB you keep referring to? If that's his learned opinion he'll have the same opinion on a ton of Brady throws to Grok. If Brady hadn't thrown so many leading poo passes that got Grok lit up, maybe they'd have more championships.

We didn’t even need the first pick. We had plenty of options. Virtually no one here wanted to trade up and they certainly didn't want to give up our best WR to do it. Which was and is comically stupid. We are where we are now because of the Tepper's. Full stop.

Has anyone realize that we have been adding more and more former USC players? It would not surprise me at all if Sellers ends up here.... But the season is still young and it's waaaay too early to talk about it, imo.

I'm on record as saying Bryce has a looooonnnngg way to go to even be in Cam's shadow. Cam was a phenom. I'm not comparing Bryce to Cam or even holding him to an expectation of what a #1 overall pick should be. Doesn't matter where you're drafted. Could care less. Sometimes you get Cam with the first pick and sometimes you get Trey Lance. Tom Brady or Brock Purdy. All I care about is they are on the team now and part of the plan and the process. All I care about is if we end up with a good NFL QB who'll allow us to compete for chips. Bryce's journey isn't Cams. Very, very few are. If it makes you feel better, pretend we drafted Bryce in the 7th round.

I don’t know what to tell yall, literally a NFL QB in slow motion breaks down where the ball should have gone and when…and the difference it provides Renfrow on that play. It’s two different worlds for the WR. Oh, and it’s probably then a completion of course

The question was if you were Morgan what would you do with the team since Bryce is a bust. I don't agree at all he is and I certainly don't blame the fans for his play. Fans being short sighted and dumb is totally separate from the question posed and in no way did I say or indicate that my fault of any coaching or on field play is the fault of said fans. My answer is I would Keep Pounding and methodically building. If Bryce turns out to be a bust, then yes, horrible mistake. The trade capital makes it even worse. Just because we traded up for Bryce doesn't change anything now. We begged for a methodical build and now we are doing it. Right now. And all it took was one bad game after all the progress last year for you to fold. If the Jags game is just another dip in the Bryce/Canales stock on the way up then the plan is still working. Canales, Morgan and company are one year in. Building methodically. Improving overall. One bad game doesn't prove me right or you wrong. And Bryce's play, which was bad, in that game isn't the last straw saying, yep, now there's is zero chance. Let's cut him, maybe fire the coach, look for a new GM and start all over again.

It's so bizarre. It is the immediate go to for some people. They act like this is the prime Cam years when people were attacking him despite changing our culture making us relevant across the league and more often than not keeping us competitive. This is not that. This has not been that for a long time. And Bryce Young is at this point in time a downgrade to every QB we have started since Cam. But the fans are the problem!

That entire article you posted was about the route being very difficult to throw and receivers running the route should count on getting hit. Let's me put it another way. No matter how good the throw is there is a very good chance that player is taking a hit. QB knows it. Receiver knows it. Safety knows it. I guess it must also be Tom Brady's greatest flaw because those seam routes to Grok took a heavy toll getting Grok lit up often. I wish we had a Grok so Bryce could throw more of those seam hospital balls.