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  2. I mean, I like the Renfrow story and all that, but he does have a history of an incurable, yet chronic autoimmune disease. Ulcerative Colitis goes into remission and can be managed with meds and lifestyle changes, but it can also flare up also. That being said, I'm still not necessarily against trading Coker for Lloyd. Not necessarily for it either. I think people must remember that Coker is still young, and probably can't anchor a WR room as good as some of you thinks that he is. He was undrafted for a reason. That being said, he's better than many suspected, and made a solid accounting of himself his rookie season. Basically, we just can't pinpoint his ceiling, but can comfortably say that he has a decent floor. It just depends upon calculating who you believe would have the most impact short and possibly long term. I think that there are still more question marks surrounding Coker.
  3. Yep 2025. All teams have projections, join the era!! Well answer this simple question my friend- How many SNAPS&TARGETS will Jalen Coker get with Chubba, Dowdle, Etienne, JT, Tremble, Evans, AT, XL. Tmac, Hunter, Moore, and Horn in 2025?? You can add recs, and TDs if you like. compare it to Lloyd- 135 tackles, 3 sacks, 10 PD, 2 INTs, 6 TFL, 900 snaps Use your thinking skills and ponder which would help the Panthers more?
  4. Im rolling with Coker, imo he should be our number 3 now or in the near future. If all three of these rookie WRs work out our offense could be deadly. I just dont see Llyod coming here and having career best stats in a lot of categories just because you pulled imaginary stats out of your ass. And he will need a new contract. Its basically giving away Coker for a one year rental.
  5. Just what I read somewhere on Reddit, but I could be remembering wrong. Agree with it showing on the field being the most important. Just a strange situation. I guess he had to have choked, but that's not a good characteristic haha.
  6. in 2025 or we thinking about the future? ANd making up stats to try to win some debate is pretty elementary
  7. Stats for the upcoming season- Panthers with each player Lloyd- 135 tackles, 3 sacks, 10 PD, 2 INTs, 6 TFL, 900 snaps Coker- 27 recs, 345 yards, 0 TDs, 173 snaps Which has more value towards Panthers winning games??
  8. It would be a great story and a good bet, but brother that is one long shot. So many things, good and bad, have to happen for that scenario to go down
  9. At +21000 it's not like I think he's actually going to win. But if he some how goes nuts and has 100 catches he has a much better story than McCaffrey who blew out his butthole for the 3rd time or whatever injury he had last
  10. Im trying to convince the huddle to trade Coker for Lloyd.......
  11. I think Hunter said it recently at his presser.
  12. Devin Lloyd is the guy to continue the MLB lore for the Panthers, he's young as well. He's 10x better than some cut. Both Teams fill a weak spot with a starting level young prospect.
  13. Nobody "needs" targets, its called competition and the cream rises. Also we arent winning poo this year so lets keep building our team and developing our homegrown players instead of doing the quick fix method which has done us so well for the past 7 years
  14. Oh, you can take things away from them, you just shouldn't take things and run away with them.
  15. He told teams and GMs the only team he wanted to play for was the Panthers, he's the guy.
  16. Giving up a young promising player in his 2nd year on a cheap contract for a guy on an expiring contract whose current team doesn’t seem to want long term is dumb idea. We could honestly give up a lot less for him if you want him so badly.
  17. No. Stop trying to bandaid together the best bad roster we can manage. Coker has shown good potential. We can find a serviceable LB or two on the waiver wire as other teams make cuts.
  18. You guys are not looking at the amount of snaps and targets for Jalen in this coming year, factor that it. Panthers have 3 RBs, 2-3 TEs, 7 WRs that need snaps and targets. Ill toss this out there too, Tmac posted a recent video of the WRs and BY having a bonding experience in Minnesota, guess who was not there?? Right if you factor that stuff in, still feel the same??
  19. We'll see what it takes to sign Hunter to an extension. Good depth, especially good young depth is hard to find. This franchise has a long history of not have enough at the position, and it's currently a strength.
  20. 3 wr have won the award in the past 20ish years. Including our very own steve smith. My advice, save your money
  21. https://thesportsrush.com/nfl-news-christian-wilkins-was-once-fined-by-the-nfl-for-grabbing-josh-allens-crotch-during-a-game/
  22. He was on the same Clemson teams as Deshaun Watson. Guaranteed some weird stuff was going on in that locker room.
  23. Hunter is your guy for that, he's only 29. That's 3-4 years of vet WR duties. I will ask you, give the CHubba, JT, XL, Tmac, Dowlle, AT, Hunter......how many targets will Coker get each game?? Personally feel he's in danger of not getting a game-day jersey, Moore and Hunter do more on STs than Coker.....
  24. For a starting young LB that can help right now? Are we sure Coker will get any snaps this season, I don't see a lane unless a couple injuries hit the WR room. It's best to trade while a stock is hot......
  25. Wager has been laid on him to win comeback player of the year. I'm assuming odds will drop when he makes the 53. If anyone else has a little coin to light on fire FanDuel at +21000 was the best I found
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