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The bad is that I haven't seen many clips of him getting open. The good is that he's finding ways to make plays anyway.

he had some incompletions in practice...

LOLOLOLOLOL I've very clearly laid out why I wouldn't do this. You haven't addressed any of it. All you've done is mid characterize arguments and make an ass of yourself, just like you did on the PFF thread.

No, it's a countering of your endless drivel of "strawmanning." Furthermore, if you don't want an answer, don't ask questions.

I mean, it's Cokeheads", and it's not the first time it's been referenced, but I doubt Basbear came up with it, but if he did it was clever. It's not even supposed to be a negative. Coker surely takes it in stride. https://x.com/KeepBlitzin/status/1852078156187926695?t=skYhVRSVQBg2A9JEk6kSQg&s=19

You got it figured out, Once Icky gets his mega-deal that will be 3 different OLmen with cap hits in the 20s........Unless Motown wants to take a super discount, he will get a bigger offer else where. Panthers need both C and RT on rookie deals or around 5 million per..... Just the facts.

I'm just enjoying watching two Panthers fans absolutely crashing out over the hypothetical pursuit of a LB that the 31st ranked defense in the league that spent a 1st round pick on the guy and is uncertain whether or not they want him to be to be a part of their future or not. Good stuff.

I'd love for you to go down to Panthers HQ and help them out with your expertise. That was a whole lot of typing to say "it matters when it supports my point and it doesn't matter when it doesn't support my point." It's always the same story with all the "tools". LOL

If he really wants to be here, that can happen. It's totally up to him. Yes, he'll have to take a hometown discount to do it. He'll have to show that the last two seasons were outliers and he hasn't become an injury risk. It will come down to money and how much of it he wants. If he wants to be paid at the upper end of the scale, it won't and can't happen here. When healthy, he deserves that kind of pay and if he wants it someone else will pay it. It can totally happen. And it's totally in his court.

He was on the "sideline" during OTA or mini camp, Im sure there was some Twitter/X post but news just moves so fast now. He's not getting the press as TMac or even Horn, but he is making plays. That's the other deal, Im a big fan of his! Just in order to get great value you need to give value in return. I said he would have been a 3rd rounder in 2025 draft, he just had bad luck with injuries hurting his stock and coming out in a deep WR class.

I've always said that PFF is a tool. If you don't know how to use it, or don't want to know how to use it, then it's useless. But some people actually do know how to use it---which is why it still exists and is used by all 32 NFL teams---and part of this is putting it all within context----seeing the bigger picture. If you don't understand that not all players, develop at the same rate, have different levels of talent, have injuries that affect their play, and face different circumstances in regards to the opposition and coaching, for example, then I don't know what to tell you. Coaches set expectations based upon a variety of things, not only last year's stat sheet, which may have been brought about by dynamics that you, as a fan, may or may not understand. And even if you have some understanding of them, as a fan, you still will never have the clarity that they do---the concerns or the context that they do. As a fan, you should even be putting your lack of understanding their context, into context (and stop trying to act like you know something to be true based upon a bad season at the end of the day).

Tillis with that smile.

You know how hard it is for a player to play both sides in this era. If they do that, all it takes is to keep Hunter defending non-stop go-routes. He just will not be able, but a small package of plays, sure. So they need a #2 for 80-90% of the snaps and/or #3 for 100% of the plays. Coker would hold plenty of value for them. On the Panthers roster, Im not sure he gets a jersey since he's limited on ST. Cokerheads just don't want to face the truth.

I hadn't seen this, looks like he's back at 100% this week. He's been making plays in camp. He's definitely playing waaaay better than an UDFA.

Since you are out of bumps, just wait for others to do your thinking like you have for this thread. You cannot answer Cokers questions, I bet if you tired you ended up just like this- LOLs

Jags got BTJ and Hunter. So you gotta start sliding that scale down to 3, 4, 5 area and competing there. Coker is cheap and promising. XL or Tmac could get hurt or struggle. That's his spot on the roster. Basically everyone else is competing for slot or spread it out 4 wide type stuff.

The answer is that we don't know. I answered that for you pages ago. The question I have is why are you going to such great lengths to make a complete jackass of yourself?

Shhhhh, don't let him know how ridiculous it is. It's funny to watch

Wow, thanks for answering the question! The other cokeheads are scare or unsure, they don't even know if he will be active or scare to post his projection 2025 stats. You for sure have a open mind about this, I knew the reason before I posted it. Psssssst but don't tell the other cokeheads, he was nursing a injury is what I heard. Ill drop this from the list, no biggie!

Cokerheads? Did you come up with that all.on your own? Gosh you must be proud.

there's no way he could catch this all, no way. He caught it https://x.com/i/status/1950650938428985471

PFF listed LLoyd as a top 15 LB in each past two seasons Sorry your honor, cokerheads can not stop with the bumps...

Because Philly had that narrow ass! I like my WR's opposite of how I like my women!!

And the team (especially Brandt) has to worry about resource allocation. We have one of the most expensive Olines in the league. No issues with that per se, but with Icky's extension coming up and paying Lewis & Hunt already, it may be better from a team building perspective to draft a RT in the 1st round next year rather than paying another veteran in their 30s. I just hope that if this is Moton's last year, he (and for us fans) can make the playoffs.