DaveThePanther2008

Record setting Day. Merry Christmas Great Job Panthers

As do I, if we draft a QB in round one I would have to assume that they really think he's the best value at our drafting position. I just don't want us to draft a QB in round 1 just to say we have our 1st round QB. I think at our current draft position those QBs that MIGHT make a difference will be gone. I'd rather use the pick on a position that our new OC can use. Really good tight ends are hard to come by. Brady made a career out of using them. He's had great tight ends most of his career. You see the different without Gronk this year. A top talent WR would be a huge addition next to Moore who would be amazing with someone to take the pressure off of him.

What facts? He's already out of the boot and progressing to be ready for OTAs. FACT Injury was caused by poor 4th and 5th string O-line play. Bad play? Anyone that got treated that way would have played poorly. You have never acknowledged that Rhule screwed our chances to see what he could do. You don't know what his talent level is because he's never been evaluate properly. Trolling? Hahahahaha this comes from the Tanking king of the forum. When most know professional football teams and players don't Tank. Furthermore, you're the one that's putting all these QBs on some type of podium of greatness. Nice try, TROLL

No different than CMC's injury, No different than Darnold's injury. He's already out of a boot and should be ready by OTAs. Terrible coaching is putting it lightly. You're going to sit here and tell me that 5 minutes at the end of practices is valuable training? Valuable Reps? Where he had a competent line to work behind? His first outing was bad but his second was much better considering he wasn't getting valuable Reps in practice. Nothing to look forward too? One of his attributes is his quick release. Better than any prospect in years, YEARS. You've obviously forgot many of the reasons we took him over Howell. (who I wanted) Stroud = System QB and looked bad against good talent Young = More injury prone than Corral. Corral's injury was his ankle. Young's was his shoulder and he was barely touched when he got hurt. I saw the game when he got hurt and it ws not a bad hit at all. Not to mention his size Levi = another that looked terrible against upper echelon teams. Has the tools but does he have the moxie. The ones below him have far many more questions than Corral.

Corral stock dropped because of some off the field issues not talent. The only reason he didn't get a legitimate shot last year was because of Rhule and his childish competition between a player no longer on the team and Darnold. Rhule chose his poison once he traded for Mayfield. He wasn't going to waste his time on Corral or any other rookie. Though, well documented Rhule did nothing for Corral, you and others make all these lame excuses why we shouldn't work with Corral and choose a QB in this draft that isn't much better, if better at all. I'd be ok with Stroud, Young or Levi otherwise we are wasting our 1st round pick if we draft a QB. We've argued this several times. You're a tanker that thinks the only thing we need on this team is a QB. You'll sacrifice everything for one, regardless of whether he's worth it or not. Corral WILL battle for a spot regardless of where we choose a QB.

What's the point of drafting a QB that has more questions about them than Corral? If you have a shot at Stroud, Young or maybe Levi than I get it, but all the others have more questions than answers. Corral or whoever our new coach brings in with him is going to have a better chance of success if we draft more weapons like a TE or WR.

I'm not against adding a QB in the upcoming draft but I also don't want to draft one in the first round just to say we drafted a 1st round QB. There are other potential starting QBs in round 2. You don't pass on a player that could be a game changer and take a QB that's not worth the value you are using the pick on. We aren't a QB away from the Super Bowl.

Wonder how many big games he loses before they turn? He's gonna get destroyed in the Big 10. He'll get exposed when half the conference is ranked in the top 25.

Talk about delusional. Some of you are so hellbent on getting a QB in round one just to say we drafted a QB in round one. You'll take said QB regardless of his question marks. We aren't getting Stroud or Young, both have concerns, but they'll be long gone by the time we pick. But then again, you're part of the Tank for a QB crowd. Tanking is a fans term not a team term. Most have said that we aren't contending next year so why not get another position of need and see what Corral has? If he going to suck so bad, we'll be in the mix for Maye or Williams, who are far better QBs than any in this draft.

The "healthy" portion IMO is over blown. His injury in preseason was a freak accident but whatever. I've seen some clips where he doesn't always go to the first read. But you can make an argument that ALL of the QBs coming out in this draft have just as many question marks as Corral does.

Yes, that seems to be an issue. It seems the target gets open, and it takes him another second to make the throw. I know that many don't want Corral but one of his attributes is his quick decision and release. I would love to see what he can do with some real Reps next year.

I don't want him as a head coach but I'd jump through hoops to get him as our DC. I loved watching our defense when he was here. He was great in Pittsburgh too. He's a perfect fit for DC. A DC that won't leave for a HC job.

Wilks is a good motivator and has this team believing they could win. BUT when you get manhandled not once but twice there is something wrong with you in game adjustments. Cincinnati destroyed us and Pittsburgh demoralized us. Bring in an offensive minded HC and he'll hire a protege to be the OC and then you find a DC that will stay a DC even after a good season. Someone who's been a HC before and realizes his position in this league is a coordinator. Dom Capers is a Senior Defensive Assistant and is a perfect coach that fills my DC criteria. He's been a HC twice. His forte is defense. If he were to come here as a DC he would probably stay even if we do well defensively.

Good Point

I was on the Wilks bandwagon even after the ass-whooping we took in Cincinnati. But after Sunday's game I came to realize that the big games are too big for Wilks. I waited and waited for the Panthers to make adjustments to what the Steelers were doing against us both offensively and defensively. It never happened. This IMO is an indication he has no clue what to do when you are getting handled. Good teams will figure your tendencies out and if you don't adjust you're done. IMO he won't figure out what to do. We'll beat inferior teams but the real good teams will handle us and like you said, we're stuck with 7 or 8 wins. I don't know if Steichen will be great or not as a head coach. But he has his offense 12-1 in a very tough division. He's taken a QB that, IMO was a bubble QB and has him in the MVP conversation. I'd take my chances with this. If he can take a player and work his strengths and get them as the top offense in the league he's got my vote.

A bit harsh don't you think? One, we've only played them 6 times since the 4-division format in 02. Yes, we are 0-6 in those games Two, A win is a win so technically he's correct. How about Almost never win. Third, that game wasn't just any game. It clinched the NFC West title and playoff berth. Finally, I was at that game, and it is probably the greatest sports event I ever witnessed live. It may have been 26 years ago and if you want to be more exact Thursday will be exactly 26 years ago. That game was a huge game for our young franchise and saying that someone shouldn't care is worse than making an issue that we haven't beaten them since.

While hoping we lose to get a higher draft pick is only for fans. There are consequences for some of the players that aren't your superstars. When teams get to the point that they are eliminated from the playoffs they start to evaluate talent that may not be on the team next year. (Except for Matt Rhule). Players are going to give it their all to win. I think that's the problem with the Tanking Crew. They are wanting it for personal reason when the reality is players play to win, not lose so 1/2 the fan base will be happy. Win or lose I look at our draft position but I, like many others, always hope for a win.

Dom Capers was an excellent DC, not much of a Head Coach but a great DC. The only question is does his defense fit against today's offenses? Many rule changes since he last coached. Also if he were to become a DC we'd have a better chance of him staying as a DC than to move into a head coaching position.

After the debacle on Sunday, I am ready to move on to a totally different regime. My first choice is Shane Steichen. He has excelled with Hurts as QB. A very mobile Cam like QB. Big, Strong and an added weapon in the running game. I would imagine he would improve our current WR group making them from average to an above average group. I would also think that he would probably want Minshew to come along because he knows the offense which would be a plus while we get our new QB up to speed. So let's say Tepper gets him as our Head Coach. What is your first free agent move? Who is your first pick? Do you go TE and run with who we have on the roster, or do you reach for a Hurts like QB like Richardson at 8 (supposing that we remain at 8)? Who does he bring in as a Defensive Coordinator?

I do agree we need a good OC but our weapons are not that good outside of Moore. RB I would say is above average but WR and TE are well below average. Then again, if we have a good OC he could turn these assets into much better groups.

It seems to be a never ending story. Seems no matter who we hire as an OC. They can't adjust. We haven't had an OC that can adjust to a game since Dan Henning.

We need a complete TE. One that isn't scared to knock the hell out of someone. Our running game depends on a good TE and we don't have one.

AMEN

Don't forget the two 3rd round picks for Jeff Lewis. lol

Sounds like you are in the wrong line of work.