DaveThePanther2008

Go back to your Aussie rules football. And I ain't your bloke, mate or any other chippy name you have.

I didn't insult anybody. Guy posted a smart-ass comment. Sue me, I didn't see where Harrison Jr. wasn't eligible. We have several million topics on Tanking, QBs and our current draft position. Is it so bad to try and get a topic other than those three main topics. I didn't list several names because though I watch college games I don't sit around with a pen and paper writing names down and what F-ing year they are eligible.

Shallow thinking bro, the odds of us getting a top QB are slim. You damn sure don't reach on a first rounder. But thanks for the intellectual reply. Your insight is amazing.

We have focused so much on QB that no one is talking about other possible positions that we could use with our first pick. Even sitting at our current spot at 5 the odds of us getting Stroud or Young are quite slim. Those of you that really follow many teams and games over the season might have some input. I like WR M. Harrison Jr. Downs from UNC. (Probably too high for round 1) TE Bowers from Ga (not sure if he's eligible) TE Washington from Ga. Who's on your radar outside of QB? Who's the best MLB and Edge?

Not beating the messenger but this sounds stupid. Why would they only allow "Top" players at a Pro Day. This is the only way some of the smaller school kids get to show their abilities. If it is true, I wouldn't be surprised to see all conference start to do what the Big 12 will be doing.

It's better than sitting around crying because we just lost draft position. Optimism, you should try it.

Our game in Seattle will be very interesting. I think if we win this game we could run the table. I honestly believe the hardest game is going to be Detroit. Their defense is playing much better and they have a very good offense. If we pull off Seattle and win at home we would have a 4 game win streak going against Tampa. Tampa has a couple of tough games they could lose. If we go in tied with them a win would almost guarantee the division for us as we would have the tie breaker. Of course there is always Atlanta.

To me it was when he was standing by his free agents last year. It was clear we had better options and he kept sticking with Erving at LT. He wouldn't play Christensen at LT because he had short arms. When Christensen finally played LT. He actually played well for a rookie. Plus, when we were eliminated from the playoffs he didn't give some of his younger players valuable time in the trenches. Experience can't be undervalued and he didn't care.

They would have to be future picks as our draft capital this upcoming draft is not great. I don't think any of these QBs in this draft are worthy of 2 first round picks. I would be surprised. I totally agree with the rest of your statement.

Name me one person that has said we won't draft a QB. I know I have never said we wouldn't draft a QB. Not once. I have only contended that Corral would compete for the job. It's been you and others that total discount his chances. I believe we will win more games and take us out of the Stroud and Young sweepstakes. This will put us in a position to reach for a QB in round one or take another player of need. We could trade down and select one later in round one and possibly pick up a 1st rounder next year. I think there will be several good QBs in the first part of round 2. Whoever we take will NOT be given the reins as the future starter. He'll compete with Corral and whoever else is in the QB room. Competition is what we'll have this coming spring. I have no idea why other posters simply can't understand this.

And I wouldn't be so supportive. The blame goes on Fhule. It was the worst coaching I've ever seen with a 3rd round pick. Had he been a 7th rounder or a UDFA I could have understood the lack of attention. We traded away 2023 draft capital for him. We saw something in him to make that trade. Fhule had his mind set on Mayfield and made a hoax of the "competition" between Baker and Sam. Clearly, Corral was never going to be the QB Fhule was going to go into 2023 with. Clearly

I don't think he failed to challenge them. He wasn't given an opportunity to challenge them. It's kind of hard to challenge when your only opportunities are with the 3rd string and below offense. A true challenge would have been giving him time with the 1st and 2nd team offense. Which he rarely, if any, got.

If he was so into building why jettison Cam and waste money on TB5. I know Cam was a shell of himself but probably better than any QB we've put out there since he left. He dug a hole he couldn't get out of with that decision. We wasted draft picks and money trying to fill that void. It would have been better to draft a QB and let him learn behind Cam. He talked about building but showed no growth in our team. His bullhead decisions on Christensen and other players just showed that he was going to win with his free agent decisions and well he didn't.

Winning right away may not have been a priority but showing improvement should have. We showed absolutely no improvement in year two and year three.

Injury prone is a bit steep but I get your point. As our draft position drops with more wins, which I do believe we'll win more games. The chance of drafting a QB in round one diminishes. Possible round two or trade up. I doubt trading up due to our limited draft capital. I could see us trading down and getting one later in round one. @Jackie Lee Posted that he is already on his way to recovery and should be ready for OTAs. I have never said he would be our starter, I've only contended that he would be given every opportunity to win the job. We saw what happens when a HC makes the decision prior to a real competition. I've only said he'd compete. Yes, he looked absolutely terrible in his first preseason game but was performing much better in the 2nd preseason game before his injury. That has to be a wash though. Anybody that gets minimal Reps in preseason is not going to look good, especially a rookie. Anyone that contents that his training camp and preseason are any indication of how well he can play is fooling themselves. Rhule screwed us. We talked extensively about this in camp and preseason. His treatment of Corral was criminal. BTW, I appreciate a real conversation instead of someone just spouting out that Corral has zero chance. Thanks

I've never said he would start. I said he would be given every opportunity to compete for the position. You're the one that says he has 99.99% chance of never playing,

— Good athlete who can make a defender miss with the ball in his hands. Can get to the edge on designed runs. — Quick-twitch player who can snap throws off play fakes. Has a quick and consistent release and throwing motion. — Above-average accuracy on short and intermediate throws when in rhythm. Can consistently place the ball to let his receivers run after the catch. — Above-average arm strength with flashes of being able to drive the ball into tight spaces. — Tough and competitive player. Does not hesitate when taking defenders on while scrambling or on designed QB runs. — Flashes the ability to throw off-platform and in scramble drills.

According to you. He has one of the quickest releases in a QB in many years. Drop only due to some overblown off the field issues. Show me the scouting report on Corral that substantiates you claim,

You have no facts.

In our current draft position we are most likely not getting Stroud or Young. I don't think we are done winning. This puts us into the 2nd tier of QBs that have as many question marks as Corral does. It also puts us in a position to draft another need or trade down. None of us know what the new coaching staff will see in Corral, whether good or bad. Everyone assumes that it is automatic that the new coach will draft a QB. Once again, it isn't going to be Stroud or Young. The injury was a freak injury. It isn't a shoulder injury, it was an ankle. People act as if it is come career ending injury. I also believe it was made to be worse to get him on IR but that's just an opinion. I also don't believe it will be a "Mayfield" competition where the QB is preselected and it's just for show. I look forward to seeing him compete for the job.

This I throw the bullshit flag on this one too. I seriously doubt he did any of this. Any player, coach or scout would not discount players on his team at any time. Playing Madden 22 doesn't constitute playing.

That's a stat not proof. You have no idea of whether he will be good enough. NONE Opinion only. You have no idea whatsoever. NONE Who's head is in the sand? Not mine. I at least say he'll get an opportunity to be our quarterback. I've never said he was the answer. Not once, I have said he'll be given the opportunity. You and the other Corral haters won't even acknowledge that he'll get an opportunity. NO ONE OF YOU. Talking about head in the sand. You cry "he was in a monsoon" hahahahaha 16 MPH winds, 69 degrees. OMG what a monsoon. The kid looked worse than Corral did and he had a complete season with the team. 1st team reps all summer and somehow he gets a pass. Corral had NO first team Reps at any time and "He's non competitive" Please. Your double standards are showing quite clearly.

Objective? You gotta be kidding me. You are going to sit here and tell me Corral had a real opportunity? Which by your statement that's exactly what you are saying. Anyone that knows football knows that Corral wasn't given one true opportunity in training camp or preseason. As I've said 1000x Corral was given 5 minutes at the end of practice. Do you truly believe that was fair? It's not a bias it is a belief that given a real opportunity he will perform well. You on the other hand have total discounted any possibility based on no facts. We traded a pick for him. We moved up to get him. The only person that held him back was Rhule. You say he ain't good enough to make us competitive. How so? No one know because Rhule had Mayfield as his boy and that was that. You're so hell bent on us drafting a QB that you'll discount him regardless of anything. I don't know where you think I get upset. I do get irritated with idiots that say 99.99% chance he won't succeed. This is a stupid, ignorant and utterly dumb statement. Based on absolutely no facts. You're a tanker, you're a loser at any cost which tells me you know absolutely nothing about professional sports and their players. Better that you go play with your Madden 22 and leave the chatter about the team to those that understand professional sports. You embarrass your profile name. diehard... hahahaha as long as we are winning.

I'm throwing the bullshit flag on this. He has many many traits that are starting caliber QB. God I hate when people talk out of the ass to try and make a point.

Exactly, the thing is we are actually in most of these games. Had we not had the late turnovers against Baltimore we could have at least tied them. Atlanta first game two missed opportunities to win. Win or lose you have to admire Wilks getting them to believe we can win these games. Given a choice for a new OC after the season. 2023 could look much different.