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Fair.

I think Aaron Rodgers is about to go off. I hate that dude he’s such an arrogant dick but tonight I think he’s having a career game

It’s not only that they traded for him, they picked up his 5th year option. I wasn’t against rolling the dice on him but damn they didn’t hedge the bet AND they doubled down! Idiocy.

Burrow is the real deal. Guy will win MVP in his career for sure. Might win super bowl MVP this season. Panthers thought Sam Darnold could win them games.

Even IF you’re right, and Ben McAdoo was doing the bare minimum to collect a residual paycheck, why couldn’t he get a coordinator job until now? His first job after his “hiatus” is QB coach of the 2020 Jaguars who finished 1-15, then a pity job with his old mentor Mike McCarthy as a consultant on the Cowboys staff. No one worth a sh*t wanted McAdoo. Even the PANTHERS didn’t want this guy in 2020 and 2021 when they interviewed him for the QB coach position. So what is your point here? You don’t have one other than to try and prove McAdoo intentionally took 2 years off. He’s a sh*t hire.

Bro,I just showed you a quote that showed how freaking grateful he was to get another coaching opportunity with the freaking god awful Jaguars and you can’t get it through your head no one wanted to hire this guy. But oh I guess it’s all just a coincidence and he didn’t really want to coach….he broke up with the Giants.

Two panthers rejects starting on the bengals defense - Zach Kerr and Eli Apple. Lol

Jimmy is better than Darnold but would not be successful on this Panthers team.

You obviously don't remember the amount of flack McAdoo caught for benching Eli Manning and ruining his iron man streak. McAdoo became a pariah. https://gmenhq.com/2018/01/10/new-york-giants-toxic-mcadoo-nfl-2018/ McAdoo didn't just take 2 years off by choice. He was interviewing. He interviewed for a job with the Cardinals in Jan 2019. https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nfl/cardinals/2019/01/19/arizona-cardinals-add-tom-clements-offensive-coordinator-qbs-coach/2626299002/ He also interviewed with the Browns in Jan 2019. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/browns-interview-former-giants-head-coach-ben-mcadoo-for-offensive-coordinator-job/ McAdoo finally landed a job as QB coach with the Jaguars in 2020. This excerpt from this SI article is pretty telling. https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/news/after-2-years-spent-out-of-coaching-ben-mcadoo-is-embracing-his-role-with-jaguars That doesn't sound like a guy who had a lot of opportunity. And like I posted earlier, McAdoo even interviewed for the Panthers QB coach position in 2020 and 2021 and Rhule didn't hire him. McAdoo isn't the "rockstar" hire we thought we would get after Jay Glazer made that comment. He's someone who had to beg to get back into the NFL after getting essentially blackballed. He's a bottom of the barrel type hire, that seems to be becoming the norm for a Panthers team that doesn't seem to run in the same circles as the rest of the NFL anymore.

Oh so like Matt Rhule

I’d be surprised if Tepper clears out the front office after Rhule is fired. I agree it probably wouldn’t be the best decision. But hey, Fitterer did think it was a good idea to pick up the $19m option for known failure like Sam Darnold. So maybe his decision making skills aren’t so great either.

I’m not sure Fitterer or Morgan have any regrets - yet. Rhule is probably going to be gone next off-season and they will be in charge of hiring the next coach. I think any hope I have for this franchise comes from the opportunity those guys will have to put their stamp on the team. They have at least been around winning NFL teams.

Has he come out and said it was an intentional sabbatical? Because the more likely scenario is like the NFL at large wasn’t happy he benched Eli Manning, one of the golden children of the NFL, and there wasn’t any interest in his services. He took a job on a doomed 2020 Jaguars staff, had an outside consulting role for an old colleague in Mike McCarthy which seems like a job he got almost out of pity, and McAdoo again finds himself on a doomed staff. It’s just not a situation that inspires any confidence this staff is going to put together a winning team. It feels like a collection of guys who couldn’t get jobs on most of the other NFL coaching staffs.

Yea, it’s Rhule’s staff. But you’d hope at the very least I’d hope the other professionals in the organization would be helping him make good decisions. Ben McAdoo just doesn’t move the needle. He wasn’t a desired candidate anywhere else and it seemed like he was almost pushed out of the NFL after he benched Eli Manning, one of the NFL’s golden boys. Hence my point in the thread - NFL outsiders and David Tepper. The Panthers are becoming the NFL’s island of misfit toys.

This is where I wonder is it just Matt Rhule who has a limited professional network? Or is it also Tepper? You’d think Fitterer and Dan Morgan would have more connections to help with a coaching search. That also begs the very real question we’ve all wondered that who would really want to take a job on a sinking ship like the Panthers? And even moreso, why did David Tepper need to pay a mediocre college coach like Matt Rhule so much money to coach the Panthers? None of it makes sense. It reeks of incompetency and seems like no one wants to work for the Panthers.

I agree with everything you said. But I also recognize that JR’s last two head coaching hires took the team to a Super Bowl. Right now I’m not hopeful the team goes back to the Super Bowl until I’m a geriatric

McAdoo wasn’t the right fit for the QB coach position on Rhule’s staff in 2020 or 2021 but now he’s the offensive coordinator? That doesn’t inspire me that he’s a desired coach on many other staffs around the NFL. Seems like he took the only offensive coordinator job he might ever get again.

This is exactly my point. The Panthers have positioned themselves outside the regular NFL circles. Rhule doesn’t have many NFL connections outside of one season he spent with Tom Coughlin and it’s hurting the team. Tepper seems to actually LIKE hiring NFL outsiders from Pennsylvania.

So what, would they just promote McAdoo to head coach? Lord this could get messy.

F*ck you.

Might as well go ahead and add Sam Darnold to that list

He was out of the NFL for two years in 2018-2019. He was QB coach on the 2020 Jaguars who went 1-15. He interviewed for the QB coach position on the Panthers in both 2020 and 2021 and did not get it. Let’s keep putting lipstick on this pig and polishing this turd though.

It feels like the Panthers have been pushed outside the NFL circle since David Tepper bought the team. I have a feeling the other NFL owners don’t really respect David. He’s the newest owner and he came from more humble beginnings. He blew up the coaching pay scale when he hired Matt Rhule and I can’t imagine the other owners were happy about that. Jerry Richardson was the opposite, having been an NFL player and bringing the Panthers to life in the first place, he was well liked by the other owners. Tepper seems to gravitate to NFL outsiders, and maybe that’s not by choice. Matt Rhule had one year experience in the NFL, as an assistant offensive line coach. Most of the coaching staff under Matt Rhule had minimal NFL experience. And now Ben McAdoo becomes the offensive coordinator, and guy who spent several seasons out of the NFL entirely after being fired by the Giants. He was a guy who couldn’t even get a QB coach position on the Panthers after the disaster that was the 2020 Jaguars offense. For better or worse, the David Tepper owned Panthers don’t seem to be running in the same circles as the rest of the NFL. It’s gonna take a long time to fix this mess.

That says a lot about the quality of people who wanted to interview for the job.