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We don't need BB to tell what type of QB that Corral can become. If anything that's going to be more on Ryan and McAdoo, and of course Corral. I think there's merit in sitting, but also in taking your lumps and playing. I believe that you have to take these things on a case by case basis and let a young man's development determine when he's ready to play.

Well that should go without saying. What jabroni would think that they should have input on football decisions...? Don't answer that!

Assuming he isn't an adult, then enjoy it. Time is fleeting. My son is 24 and basically just talks about the Panthers to rib me. I think if they start winning, he'll actually have more than an interest than just to emphasize to me how they did this wrong and how they did that wrong.

By the way, "we" have money and determine how to spend it too.

Not judging at all, just remarking how miserable most of you seem because you don't like Rhule or Tepper or... You? You seem to be rolling with the punches and keeping it all in perspective.

Pep was a freak of nature. I don't think Panthers fans really appreciated that fact.

My son will probably be texting me this at some point. I raised him as a Panthers fan, but he talks sh¡t about the team to me as if he wasn't, and then watches the games with me (until we absolutely start sucking), and says things like, "See, I told you, y'all Panthers fans are delusional... [blah blah blah]"

LOL I was thinking, "What a mostly miserable lot", but these mofos are probably living pretty well if they can waste that amount of money. Now be a generous PSL owner and get me a beer. I'll appreciate it, come what may (Rhule, Darnold and all).

It's expensive to live, particularly in Cali, and even more so when you're trying to provide avenues for your kid to get to the NFL. But, who knows...

I don't think it's because he's a Rhule guy, I think it's because he's been good depth. I don't know what people expect. I haven't heard his name called for anything bad, but have seen him impact a few plays.

All the QBs have a lot to learn, but Corral has extra learning to do because he's transitioning from college to the pros. There is a lot to learn by everyone. They'll keep adding more and more to everyone's plate on a gradual basis, look at what players do well and devise an offense around that. He likes the TE room from top to bottom and plans to get them involved in a variety of ways from blocking to catching and maybe even running, sounds like. TMJ, as all the receivers, are learning plays. There are no set starters per se (no number 3 guy anyway). He wants to see how they will complement each other as a unit. Guys are paid to play, but there are ways that we can manage CMC's workload (whatever all that means). McAdoo sounds very much like he believes in letting players and their skill sets determine the playbook and how we go about attacking defenses. This is kinda his presser in a nutshell.

I agree, but LG was just musing and licking his chops over imaginative possibilities. Mayfield demanding more money would make for a helluva soap opera.

The most interesting part to me was his seemingly nonchalant attitude about his particular offensive scheme. I know that some won't, but I like what I'm hearing. It sounds to me that he's going to let the players and their individual strengths decide what type of plays he devises. I can see someone either seeing him as a genius or a dumbass based on his approach. I can't wait to see what he comes up with.

I mean, I understand what you're saying, but I think there are layers to this which everyone is aware of, and as such I don't necessarily buy into the opinion that he'd be torpedoing his future by playing hardball with the Browns. Sure, I don't think Mayfield is all that, but I do recognize that I could be wrong and that he has enough questions around his career that someone may still want to take a chance on him. That being said, if someone really believes that Baker has untapped franchise-level talent---value, then he's going to get another shot, regardless of what goes on with the Browns.

Sure, he doesn't really have the Browns by the balls, but I don't believe that the Browns have him by the balls either. They lost that grip when they lied to him. He's a malcontent that can sink their season in so many ways if they allow him to see the field. They're not going to do that. It's better for all the parties involved for them to pay him to stay away.

His defense team got very rankled at the woman's accusations of attorney intimidation. It seems like such a high profile law firm wouldn't involve themselves in intimidation tactics (because they know they don't have to), but I guess you never know.

Juan's sorely-lacking thread titles must be a thing now, an accepted part of Huddle culture.

So, it must be a slow news time for Mary Kay Cabot. Pushing conjecture and speculation based on month-old news reports. None of this is anything new, not even the painting of the Panthers FO as being not on the same page. Like I said, I can do without it.

That's the way you see it. I still don't see the point of the article, but possibly to drum up some interest. As a Panthers fan, I can surely do without her speculation as to our FO's thinking on the matter. We did what we did, and Tepper (who appeared in Panthers Confidential exactly like an owner letting his football guys make the decisions), Rhule, Fitterer, McAdoo and Ryan all appeared to be genuinely on one accord. The pre-Corral stuff at this late date is totally unnecessary in my opinion.

Cabot was the one who mentioned the "holding their breath" thing in the first place--like the Panthers are waiting on pins and needles for the Browns to cut Mayfield. I don't really see the point of the article, unless she's just being a pawn in some offseason gamesmanship by the Browns. And, again, we'll see what tune they're singing if Mayfield decides to become a distraction. Basically, the Browns overplayed their hand, and I doubt anyone in the league really cares when/if they cut Mayfield. Of course that's not to say someone won't sign him after they cut him, but I'd be pretty surprised if organizations, especially us, don't just stick to their guns and be opportunistic if it makes sense, even in the case of injury because Mayfield simply isn't worth the money or the draft compensatiom that a delusional Browns franchise would like to swindle some franchise out of.

I mean, y'all are clowning the OP (and admittedly he simply says dumb sh¡t sometimes), but I do think that regards to the Panthers part of this article, specifically, that she is doing a bit of speculating. The word "seems" should not be overlooked. Moreover, even if she's correct, just because there wasn't or isn't a meeting of the minds regarding Baker's worth as a QB doesn't mean there wasn't or isn't an organizational consensus about the amount that should or shouldn't be paid for him. For me, moving up to take Corral, and the amount of patience and discipline displayed before doing so, speaks louder than Cabot's speculation. The Panthers flipped the script on the Browns when they drafted Corral, so all the talk about what happened pre-Corral is interesting and all, but it sounds more akin to spilled milk than having any importance to whether or not we're willing to take on Most of Mayfield's salary post-Corral. I don't believe that anyone on the Panthers is holding their breath for the Browns to cut Mayfield. But, what I will say is that Mayfield really hasn't even made it difficult for the Browns yet, and all this talk about them not releasing him sounds great in May, but will it sound the same in August?

He apparently hasn't gotten a job because...he's apparently a first-rate asshole.

Adam Shefner? Must be a new guy.

Bullsh¡t! Robbie has had one bad year in an otherwise solid career. Darnold has had all bad years in anything but a solid career.

So much bullsh¡t in this thread...