top dawg

Good grief, hot takes for dinner!

Not how I remember it. After the picks were made, most were good with them, or at least were cautiously optimistic. Of course there's always the loudmouths, but they don't speak for everyone!

I was looking up Gil Brandt this morning and happened to come across his December write-up on Jeremy Chinn in his article on the top 5 defensive rookies of last season: The deserving front-runner for the Defensive Rookie of the Year award leads all rookies in tackles (100), and he also made NFL history by returning fumbles for touchdowns on back-to-back plays against the Vikings in Week 12. But his implementation by Carolina defensive coordinator Phil Snow is what has impressed me most. Snow has played the second-rounder out of Southern Illinois in multiple roles you wouldn't expect a player from a small college to immediately handle. When I was talking to Chinn on SiriusXM NFL Radio, he mentioned that the behind-the-scenes tutelage of former Panthers stud Luke Kuechly has also helped, with Kuechly serving like a second coach to him. You can see just how much Chinn means to the Panthers by watching Carolina's loss to Kansas City, which Chinn missed; without Chinn, the Panthers had to shuffle personnel in and out of the lineup in an effort to replicate his every-down impact, while Travis Kelce (10 catches, 159 yards) was free to rack up production without having to worry about Chinn. https://www.nfl.com/news/top-five-defensive-player-of-the-year-candidates-so-far Even Brandt gave him the "frontrunner" status and respect that he deserved. And, at least for me, nothing happened the rest of the season to change that. Sure, the WFT went to the playoffs, but that's a bullsh¡t way to judge the DROY! I mean, I'm not surprised due to the bullsh¡t politics, but Chinn deserved more than 4½ votes to Chase Young's 42½. That's NFL-AP B.S. Anyway, notwithstanding that travesty, I do give merit to Brandt's praise of Phil Snow putting Chinn into positions to succeed. I also wasn't really cognizant of the role that Luke Kuechly was (and is) playing in Chinn's development. Glad to see Chinn give Luke that makes much-deserved acknowledgement pertaining to his growth. He's a special dude--yes, Chinn, and Luke!

Other than a general ranking of the top QB prospects, Gil Brandt hasn't said anything. I do find it interesting that like Greg Cosell, he seems to favor Lance a little bit over Justin Fields. Moreover, and also very interesting, he compared Zach Wilson to Tony Romo. You never know what Rhule e and company are thinking, but I respect Brandt and Cosell. I can see Rhule being on one accord with them in reference to his thinking (although I believe he has a little stag in him). I'm starting to believe that Wilson may be that deal. Who would pass up on a Romo in this year's draft? But 209 at 6'3", with past shoulder and thumb injuries, makes me believe the kid needs get in the weight room. Romo was physically solid!

This is from the Colts forum, and someone did a more thorough job of quoting Cosell (I'm too sensitive to cooyrights), so perhaps seeing some verbatim points in print might sway you. https://forums.colts.com/topic/69978-greg-cosell-on-the-qbs-of-the-2021-draft-lance-over-fields-trask-is-likely-a-backup-in-the-league/ But, as opposed to just audio, here's the video. The QB part starts at 8:55

That same thing had been said about Teddy Bridgewater. I know that Cosell's mouth isn't a prayer book, but when someone like him calls Jones a "bad athlete" who has "almost no ability to play outside structure whatsoever," I tend to listen, because that's strong language. At least Teddy has some mobility.

They need to #FreeTheWFT! Snyder is terrible in all important respects!

I was wondering what was going on in this thread...Oh, just a little baloon-blowing Bridgewater banter from a Teddy apologist who is clearly not acknowledging Teddy's deficiencies while blowing up his nearly nondescript good points because of his overall play. We're going to move on. Rhules words about Teddy having to have a "tremendous" offseason are very telling. https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article249658173.html

I'm referring to Verge, but I could've missed something.

I haven't seen you get into it with anyone for that matter.

Ha ha! Took me about 10 seconds, but I got it!

Two words: utter nonsense!

They're also open to trading Trent Brown. https://www.nfl.com/news/raiders-discussing-potential-ol-trent-brown-trade

There's some splitting of hairs here. "Game-winning drives" is what the media was discussing.

At the end of the day, I saw Teddy screw up. I watched the games! I saw him throw ill-advised INTs and mind numbing checkdowns. I saw him hold onto the ball a little too long in some of his throws, causing the receiver to miss out on receptions/YAC, so I don't care if it's 0-8 or 3-8, Teddy wasn't as advertised!

I don't know. I know if I go down the schedule, where games that ended up within one possession scoring-wise of a tie or win, there were 11 of them. We won three and lost eight, so 3-8. If you look at what is considered possible game-winning (or tying) drives, then it's reported that Bridgewater went 0-8. Are you suggesting that media is wrong? I mean, it was reported on the Web and on TV (and I faintly remember someone mentioning that he wanted to win one--probably the second Saints game--during a broadcast). https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/34523/panthers-2020-and-bridgewater-defined-by-failure-on-late-drives%3fplatform=amp https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/12/31/teddy-bridgewater-would-like-to-complete-a-game-winning-drive-to-end-2020/ https://money.yahoo.com/teddy-bridgewater-complete-game-winning-144905637.html

He did go 0-8 in those 8 games. It's more than just the Huddle.

He was saying that based on what others had told him when when he was in the process of closing the deal or shortly thereafter. Once he learned about Hurney's shortcomings, he fired him! Damn, man, you act like people can't actually learn and grow! Furthermore, suggesting that someone change or add to the scheme is exactly that. It doesn't mean he's forcing coaches to do anything. Come on, Scot!

Tepper is a different cat. He hasn't done anything too earth shattering yet, and until he does, I'm rolling with him. The most important thing that he's done thus far with what appears to be heavy involvement is acquire a coach who (in my mind) looks promising, and a GM with seemingly a lot of practical knowledge and definitely a lot of connects league wide. I'm not going to fault him for either move (even if some think they came a season too late).

It's not any "wishful thinking", its chatter on a message board. Don't lose your context! We certainly haven't. The fact is, there's a strong possibility that we may/will move up in the draft to acquire a franchise QB. It's not imminent, but it is (some would say "highly") possible. It's even more likely due to all the chatter and at least one trade proposal involving Teddy Bridgewater. That being said, we're either going to have to use players, picks, or a combination thereof. We're not moving up for free, or probably on the cheap. At that point, it just becomes a tug of war, filled with enticement, during negotiations. And CMC may or may not be one of the pieces discussed, regardless of his current contract. Now, of course, we could just stay where we are and hope. We don't know what's going to happen.

All I'm saying is that we aren't in the FOs' heads. If someone had told probably any of us that we'd be attempting to trade away so much value for DW, as has been speculated, when the DW saga first began,cwr'd have said "no way", but now we've heard otherwise (and that's on top of trying to trade for Stafford).

I'm quoting you because you were cosigning...but anyway...CMC is a valid trade piece if two sets of GMs and owners agree that he is a valid trade piece. I think they know their team's puzzle, plan and cap manipulation/execution plans better than we do.

To move up and get a franchise QB without spending tons of draft capital (or any young talent, especially on defense, I might add).

CMC's importance to any team can easily justify the pay, and his injuries, though legit at the time, aren't all that concerning. Some of y'all are SERIOUSLY underestimating his value (and/or their perception of CMC) to ANY franchise.

And the more I think about it, it sounds like an interesting trade proposal. They get arguably the best RB in the league and to stay in the top 10, where they'd likely get Chase or Smith. That offense would be instantly upgraded! I think that CMC is undervalued on the Huddle by some. He's still a special RB, if not football player period!