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I said that our ceiling ing was seven games, but I didn't forsee this train wreck. I thought that with all that brain power on staff, that we'd pick the better QB. I never trusted Reich to be a great coach or even an above average one, but his situational creativity is nonexistent, if not his situational awareness in general. I knew that there was the potential for uninspired play calling, but I thought that he'd at least be average. Now, all I can do is hope, but I can't even really find hope because it's most certainly lost. Sigh, man. And my son got me a Young jersey back in July, but Dick's only has a 45-day window. I still told him to try and return it for a store credit because it's still in the birthday bag that he gave me. The plan was to wear it with his first victory. Well...

That's always been the case.

The tape says that he's one of the better pass rushers in the league.

Some of you are just underrating Burns. He has good numbers, and certainly numbers that equate better than a second.

Chuba is going to get stuffed a lot behind this line and will suffer due to uninspired play calling, but he's the type of back that's also going to break some chunk plays due to his explosiveness. Now, I'm not saying I wouldn't want a back closer to Barkley, but in today's the RBC is very effective, and Chuba definitely stands out when given opportunities to get into the flow of the game.

Just like people say that there's always an excuse from some when Bryce plays bad, I submit to you that there's always an excuse when he plays well (albeit in spurts).

And let's not forget that Detroit has a run D that's playing near historically so far.

I hear a lot of people saying that he's not a solid starter, but all I see is him producing when he's in there. Perhaps people should be saying that he needs the opportunity than just assuming that he can't start.

I agree. Bryce has yet to prove that he's the type of QB that can put a team on his back and make the plays to lift his team to a win. He hasn't played up to his draft status yet. Still, he had some NFL-worthy throws (regardless if it was against so-called "soft zones" or not). The Lions scheme wasn't necessarily the best fit for deep throws, which I'd still like to see, but Bryce worked that second level with some comfort today. Too bad he threw the easy picks.

You could be right, but I saw some good throws today.

I get your point, and, hey, we do need to see much more. I agree totally. But, did they really go into full prevent mode? I saw passes into tight pockets.

Bryce actually showed some signs of life. Other than a couple of bad INTs, I saw some flashes today.

Honestly, I'd rather that he just be canned.

We didn't need him. Stop underrating Hubbard.

Who knew? Some of y'all. I still wouldn't have hired either one of them.

I give up.

Buyer's remorse.

Not really random. He's no star, but he's been solid.

Honestly, I'm surprised that more haven't been intercepted.

When? Are you sure that was me? I was always skeptical of the Reich hire and said so.

To be honest, the word is already coming up, and that's inevitable and unstoppable. But I haven't seen a single person deny that Young actually becoming a bust is an impossibility. I have seen people, including myself--including Trapasso say that three games is much to early to form an opinion, and if there is been any shouting down (which seems hyperbolic), it's been about that.

I'm a realist who tries to be objective before making up my mind. I have made up my mind about Frank Reich: nice guy, but uninspiring head coach whose not situationally adept, and whose product is not conducive to winning a championship. I've made up my mind about Scott Fitterer: out-of-the-box thinker who gets waxed in deals because he's unable to appraise the value of his own players and hold other GM's feet to the fire, as well as being a somewhat sketchy talent evaluator. Now, I haven't made up my mind on Bryce Young, and I think it's generally unfair to be making definitely negative statements about a rookie only three games in, QB or not. That being said, I am as concerned as any Panthers or Young fan about what I've seen. Chris Trapasso of CBS is concerned, but he has extra juice to back it up. "His efforts have been wholly uninspiring and ultra-conservative. They've lacked the creative brilliance we watched for two seasons at Alabama, and his weaknesses have been highlighted in each contest. "From a statistical perspective, Young's current 4.9 yards-per-attempt average ranks 249th out of 261 quarterbacks in modern NFL history (since 1961) to attempt at least 75 passes in their first three professional starts (rookie year or not)." "...even those who weren't completely enamored with Young -- like myself -- had to admit: the guy made tremendous off-script, outside-of-structure plays at Alabama look routine. "...Young's athleticism has been stretched to the limit. His pressure-to-sack rate of 22% is the 10th-highest in football (meaning he's been sacked 22% of the time he's been pressured). His overall sack rate is 9.6%, not brutally high for most rookie quarterbacks but decently alarming for a No. 1 overall pick who was tabbed as an improvisation specialist." Trapasso's concerns are legit, but he did like many people do and did not really provide any context regarding Young's specific situation. Comparing him to C.J. Stroud's situation just doesn't do it for me because he didn't mention play calling and coaching. To Trapasso's credit, he did say that Stroud hasn't "done extreme heavy lifting operating Houstons offense," and said that Texans receivers (who some try to downplay here) are getting open "much more frequently" than what's going on here, but he basically intimated that Young is getting shook by a less than stellar line, while Stroud seems unaffected. Trapasso also is suggesting that Young's best asset pre-draft was his improvisation. We've seen a flash or two of that, but I'd say that Young's processing was his best trait. All we can do is hope that with more experience and better coaching that things turn around. Otherwise, this is going to turn from an imperfect storm to the perfect storm to the sum of all fears. Let's hope that some of our fears are put to rest today. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/as-c-j-stroud-stars-for-texans-heres-why-bryce-youngs-first-few-starts-have-been-concerning/

No one else is going to give them anything more. A first and Jeudy is worth Burns.

The Panthers shouldn't have to pay any draft capital as long as Burns is included in a trade, Denver should be paying us.

Man, some of you are being shortsighted when itt comes to Bryce...