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when I tell you there are people here who would genuinely like to see playoff seeding determined by cap space I am not kidding no forum for any fanbase for any team cares as much about it as the people here do

Yeah I mean nobody is saying it isn’t a tough evaluation, I don’t envy the individuals that have to make the call. but the reality is that the math suggests one or two of these guys will be good players, and it’s Scott fitterers job to identify that guy and take him, not gravitate to (supposedly) safer prospects just to try and squeeze a couple extra seasons of tenure in by saying “see? The guys I drafted didn’t bust.” This was Marty’s undoing while he was here, and it’s ironic that he doesn’t get more criticism for it while people are quick to complain about things during his tenure that are league norms, such as adding void years to contracts. im sure an excellent running game with a stout offensive line and a defense that Really Flys Around will really come through for the panthers in the colder months as they fight their way back from a 3-6 start to finish with a respectable 8 wins every single season. but it won’t win them a super bowl.

People get consumed with little things and make the job seem much more daunting than it is. good QB play will make you forget about little issues really quickly

wow even these newer posters are getting it, kinda scary that we have fans who have been around and watched as much football as they have and still miss basic things

but can and road =[

Yeah that’s how it goes around here. Young will either be transcendental next season and Panther fans will get sad realizing they passed on a QB this season for a desperate shot at the #1 overall pick, or he will regress to the mean and we’ll have to hear “it’s just not a good QB class, let’s just wait and get the top guy next year, the draft is just about coming away with a safe player.”

lol a what now?

oh wow another generic internetism, maybe you should head back to Reddit

You cannot blow your chance to take control of the division. Panthers have to come up with a QB.

What does this mean? Who cares? This isn’t how the draft works. It’s not the panthers job to assess how long it’s been since they “made an investment,” is their job to assess value relative to need, cost, and opportunity. When you realize that, it becomes difficult to argue the point unless you’re saying the QB position isn’t important and breaking out dumb car analogies to do it.

I know man Howell and ridder and rattler it’s gonna be stacked, best we wait

calling the most important position in sports sexy or a luxury or whatever stupid car cliche you broke out is peak dissonance with what football fans around the league watch game in and game out heres a dirty little secret you’ll have to accept games aren’t won in the trenches controlling the TOP isn’t a key to victory defense doesn’t travel and cold weather football doesn’t show how the game hasn’t changed in January the game has changed, the teams that have accepted it are still playing, the ones that are still trying to prove “it should be done a certain way” are getting turned down by special teams coordinators

I can’t think of a better way to drill straight through rock bottom

It’s a thing people say on forums that sounds really smart and clever but it isn’t really a thing A new coach would also be more than welcome to pick a new QB if the current one doesn’t work thats the way the game is now you don’t just abide failure just because, just like you don’t prevent a coach from upgrading just because he makes you Sad Real Big Sad =[

This isn’t really a thing and even if it was, it would only mean multiple high value chances at a franchise QB, which anyone should be fine with

I suppose in some sense that this is true, he would fit in great here

I can assure you that by making minimum investment low effort swings it’s a whole whole lot harder

anyone who watched that game and saw anything other than two terrific QBs carrying all the other players on the roster has no idea what they’re looking at a QB changes everything

Yeah this about says it

so crazy to me that these teams can come out and deliver performances like this without elite center play or a really stingy run stuffing defense

guys ignore what you’re seeing here we need to draft Tyler linderbaum, he will change the fortunes of this franchise

Allen is such a great example of why teams can’t get too picky evaluating QBs a massive frame with an insanely powerful arm? he had “accuracy issues” coming out, sure, that’s a negative, but the windows are bigger than ever and having the power to be able to drive the 8 on plays like you just saw there is something you build around, not something you discount and forfeit because he doesn’t fit into your narrow definition of the position

that’s the difference he had a QB. Building when you have an elite QB and rebuilding when you don’t are two very different things if Wilson ends up in new Orleans I suspect Payton will be quite content to stick around

wants to be given the keys to a better team rather than having to stick around through the suck and risk his rep

and you’re desperately trying to prop up a silly insult the team isn’t just disregarding value in their selections, no team is. But it’s not the silly black/white line you’re trying to portray it as.