saX man

Oh boy oh boy oh boy

If you smooshed Chad Pennington and Matt Hassleback together and put them through a frat douche machine, you get Mac Jones.

It is make or break for Pace. He goes full on crazy mode and gives them too much to decline.

[Hello board of people on the board] I have my ultimate predictions for today's draft: 1-JAX: Trevor Lawrence QB 2-NYJ: Zach Wilson QB 3-SF: Mac Jones QB 4-ATL: Trey Lance QB 5-CIN: Jamaar Chase WR 6-MIA: Kyle Pitts TE/WR 7-CHI (Trade w/DET): Justin Fields QB (This is the big trade up. Have no idea how NO trades up this far) 8-CAR: Penei Sewell LT (We land the guy most of us wanted all along once we landed Darnold) 9-DEN: Jaycee Horn CB 10-DAL: Patrick Surtain II CB 11-NYG: Kwity Paye DE (Gettleman Gettlemans it Gettleman style) 12-PHI: Devonta Smith WR 13-LAC: Christian Darrisaw LT (Yes, first bold prediction, over Slater) 14-MIN: Rashawn Slater OT 15-NO (Trade w/NE): Jaylen Waddle WR (This type of trade I can see if a top guy falls, NE may have their eye on someone else...more coming below) 16-AZ: Jamin Davis LB 17-LVR: Micah Parson LB 18-MIA: Caleb Farley CB 19-WAS: Greg Newsome III CB 20-DET (from CHI): Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah 21-IND: Jayson Oweh DE/EDGE 22-TEN: Zaven Collins LB (Could go way higher than expected. AZ may also shoot for this guy) 23-NYJ: Alijah Vera-Tucker OT 24-PIT: Alex Leatherwood OT/G 25-JAX: Walker Little OT (Surprise high pick to protect TL) 26-CLE: Asante Samuel Jr. CB 27-BAL: Kadarius Toney WR 28- NE (from NO): Davis Mills QB (BOOM, they surprise with Mills in the 1st round) 29-GB: Rashod Bateman WR 30-CAR (from BUF): Richie Grant S (YEP calling a R1 trade up, get 5 years out of these kids. Would be amazing) 31-BAL: Elijah Moore WR 32-TB: Teven Jenkins OK State For your health -Sax

Checks out with the biggest Fields dissenter in Simms being BFFs with Shanahan and Lynch.

The possibilities!! AAAHAHHSHDHD

If the top-4 truly go QB, Chase or Sewell will end up a Panther. Pitts is not making it past Miami. Cinci is either Sewell or Chase. If they go Sewell, then I wonder if the Saints don't make a deal. If CIN goes Chase, Sewell is falling to us IMO.

So then amended w/the Saints news: 5-Chase 6-Pitts 7-Bama WR 8-Sewell

If so.... 5-Chase/Sewell 6-Pitts 7-Chase/Wildcard/Fields trade/Have no clue -- Pitts is the only for sure to go ahead of our pick if your rumor rings true. That means one of Chase, Fields, or Sewell will be available. Will be interesting to see what goes down!

Wouldn't it be great if this flood of leaks about us high on CBs is to actually ensure Sewell or someone falls? Could be some grade-A stealthiness by our new boy Fit.

From 15 to 8 would require: #15, one of their 4ths, and their 2022 1st at a minimum. They could still suck and we land a top pick nest year.

If the SF staff has convinced Shanahan to roll the dice with Lance, then floodgates are opened. I see DET and ATL taking calls if other teams they think we'd grab him. Then we land Sewell! 1-Lawrence 2-Wilson 3-Lance 4-Fields 5-Chase 6-Pitts 7-*trade up-Jones 8-Sewell This would be ideal.

Honestly, I wouldn't take #3 for Darnold and #8. They kind of screwed it up IMO.

g rekagnjkerfnagjkbngjeanbo;tenmab

Heineke

Ron Rivera THE MAN Taylor Bush Light

Although maybe we're targeting a starting LG in R2. We could have a new legion of boom in Surtain-Jackson-Bouye-Burris-Chinn And then a brand spankinf new Leatherwood at LG. LT may just not be ideal this year after Sewell. There's been so little on A-T and Christian that I don't know about them.

All signs point to CB and that everyone gets really mad about no tackles.

First post: "I don't believe arms length to be make or break" Follow-up: "I'm posing the question with the thread. Appreciate the points about leverage by come and the apt comp to Gross. But it is true some staff's do in fact look at arm length as it is a big component to the position. But as with everything it's one of many and countless exceptions to the rule are found that make up for it like Jason Peters, Joe Thomas, Jordan Gross as I mentioned." I legit identified the variables and gave credence to them. Am I in crazy land or is no one trying to gauge how in consideration of priorities and all variables considered, which guy we may like most?

Who did that?

You know what they say about long arms?!?!

My guess is Pitts. Too good of a potential star to pass on if they stay put, and should if they want to start the new regime off right..which I hope they don't. Because it's the Falcons.

Yeah I think there's a line that can be drawn but it's from prospect to prospect, not an overall "must be this tall" type thing. It reaches a point where no matter the skill, a certain frame or body type will simply have trouble against the higher level competition and NFL defenses. Sewell & Slater are both absolute studs so I don't think 3/4" is anything to dwell on like you said. I however do think when you get down to the 32ish range, it becomes a bit more of an issue because then it's notable and their game needs to compensate for it. Stepping back, some guys make up for it with their footwork, agility, quickness, & technique. It just depends but when they are a bit undersized, then those top traits need to hit on all cylinders. I believe they do with Sewell and Slater for the most part. They've held their own against some of the best DEs. A bit less with Eichenberg, Cosmi, & Mayfield. I will say, the Radunz kid is pretty interesting and I like Jenkins & Darrisaw a lot. I've grown a bit wary of Cosmi and Mayfield after liking them a lot initialy. It's kind of a combo of considering their performance and stepping back and seeing their builds.

^^jfc, I'm not saying short arms is a must. Can anyone have a nuanced convo about this? It's a thing scouts look at whether you like it or not, but like I mention, there are plenty of exceptions to the rule.

I will say, the potential partners in WAS, NE and CHI could be bad this season and they would need to package their 2022 1st rounder to move up to #8. Could easily be a top-5 pick next year. Could have 2 top-16 first rounders. Great ammo to land the top QB. It's an appealing strategy but I'd hope they have a specific player or two they're targeting in a trade down. Jenkins, Darrisaw, Horn, etc.