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Which is also something I’m seeing a lot of
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A good ball there and it’s 6. I mean at least he threw it deep but I don’t know what his deal is with throwing these sidelines deep balls out of bounds
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I wanted Rattler too but there was no way they were drafting someone that would immediately come in and push Bryce for the starting job
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Of course. Any deep ball will most likely have some air under it (obviously). Bryce doesn’t really have the arm strength to wait 3-4 seconds then take a deep shot. He’s more of a drop back, gather and launch it. Which at Bama was enough time for a guy like Jamo to create separation. He needs to understand NFL open is different. Also most of Young’s deep shots in college were in the middle of the field where Jamo usually had a couple steps on his guy. We saw Young struggle a lot last year when targeting guys down the sidelines and often didn’t even give his guy a chance. Bryce hasn’t had a guy like XL before. If Bryce is waiting on XL to get “Bama open” he’ll be waiting forever. I really just want to start seeing him throw balls to XL and give him a chance. Allow him to use his body like he did with that one pass from Dalton in camp that the Panthers put out on Twitter. You might as well start working on the chemistry part during camp when interceptions don’t matter
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Canales says 2.7 because he doesn’t want Bryce standing around after going through his progressions
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2.7 seconds is enough time to take a deep shot period. Have you not ever seen a QB drop back and let it rip? I’m pointing out the fact that the average time to throw is 2.4/2.5 and you’re pretending like 2.7 prevents us from doing anything other than short passes. It doesn’t.
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https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2023/11/2/23942644/comparing-pocket-time-between-patrick-mahomes-and-tua-tagovailoa#:~:text=Per Pro Football Reference%2C "pocket,2.4 seconds to 2.5 seconds. 2.7 seconds isn’t the reason he isn’t throwing deep
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You can’t count 1v1’s Into this equation. 1v1’s leave him literally no choice. When he has the choice he doesn’t go deep. Maybe you’re thinking about the attempt to Thielen? Where Horn catches up while ball in air But yeah, 2.7 seconds is still enough time to go deep. Getting the ball out quick doesn’t mean it HAS to be thrown short
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What deep passes are you talking about? I have not seen anything about a 55 yarder? and this whole 2.7 second excuse is already getting old. 2.7 seconds gives you enough time to throw deep. Hell, you wait much longer and you’ll need to be able to chuck it 60 air yards to catch up to a WR
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Plummer is supposed to get lots of reps during these pre season games. I don’t think we’re in a position to just be wasting reps after last season. Especially at QB I really wished they would’ve made a move for Howell or Fields
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Same. There’s no way they’re looking to bring in anyone that could potentially threaten for the starting job. Which basically means they need to find a Plummer-level type or the 3 guys you mentioned. I’d personally like to see them bring in someone a bit more mobile.
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https://x.com/houstontexans/status/1819183543089582265?s=46&t=W75E23VenL1ei42iX22E5g This is the kind of energy I miss having at QB. It’s important imo
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The panthers posted a clip of one of Young’s completions to Johnson. Zavala was in at LG on this particular play. So it would seem he was getting work with the 1’s. How much? I have no idea. I’m having a hard time figuring out why he was getting any snaps with the 1’s
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Carson Beck come on down
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Over/under 50.5 sacks this year?
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Little to no coverage tonight. Other than Newton I don’t think anyone else made the trip
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He turns around to try and locate the ball because it’s underthrown and off to the side. There’s no other reason for Mingo to fully spin around like that these are 1v1’s… it is damn near impossible to have a miscommunication. I’m sure it was a simply go and Mingo had position inside and Bryce threw outside for whatever reason This was what we saw last year where he didn’t even give his guys a chance. The ball would land a few yards out of bounds
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Go to 2:24 Bryce deep ball to Mingo in 1 v 1’s I just don’t know how you miss like that in 1v1’s as an NFL QB
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They do mention Brees but said he’s 1 of 1. Said it would take awhile for Bryce to get there. Which is fair. Brees became Brees due to understanding coverages and throwing to spots. If Bryce were to ever reach that ceiling would it still be with the Panthers? I don’t know if Tepper is patient enough. I personally think this season is a big one for Bryce. If the Panthers were banking on him becoming Drew Brees while acknowledging anything short of that probably results in him being a bottom third(?) QB in the league then that’s a crazy bet to make when deciding whether or not to draft a kid 1st overall. like you said, it’s his deep ball that MUST improve. It would open up so much for him. It’s why I’m wanting to see him throw deep in camp so badly. Seems like Canales is going to try and get Bryce out of the pocket more. Which will open things up. He’s good at keeping his eyes downfield. He’s capable of running. If he added a deep ball that defenses had to respect on top of those two things… we’d have something I agree. The Saints had such a well rounded roster. They had talent everywhere and should’ve won another SB. It was Brees arm that held that team back from winning another SB
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Compared him to Andy Dalton. Said It would’ve been fine to draft Bryce late 1st/early 2nd and then take advantage of his rookie contract Like a few of us have mentioned they then go on to say the problem with these types is when it comes time to paying them Once that Tua cap hit starts coming into play I think Miami will be toast. The problem is you build these super teams around some of these guys and they look good enough that teams are afraid to move on from them. How do you sell a fan base on moving on from a QB while you’re going to the playoffs. If Bryce’s ceiling is somewhere between Purdy/Tua is it possible to win a SB with him? I personally don’t see it
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If Bryce manages to lead us to another top pick and we’re able to land Carson Beck, I doubt there will be a “rebuild” If this OL is what they expect it to be and XL/Mingo start playing well, then this roster is set up pretty nicely for a rookie QB. Re start the rookie contract clock for cap purposes and this thing could really take off. The worst case scenario is that we once again go 7-10 or 6-11 while winning like we did with Sam Darnold. Knowing we need to move on from Bryce but we need to trade up to land a top QB
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Your QB needs at least one special physical trait Cam had legs and powerful arm Stroud has his arm Bryce doesn’t have anything. His brain doesn’t count when he doesn’t have the physical traits to take advantage of this “super brain” It’s been so damn long since we’ve had a real QB that the bar for some of these training camp throws has been set so low. As far as system QB’s go I think Tua is holding that Dolphins team back. His numbers look great but he’s a product of that system. Tua is another one that doesn’t have any special physical traits and when push comes to shove the Dolphins always come up short
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These are just 1 on 1’s. I’m talking 11’s or id even settle for something deep in 7’s at this point. Bryce hasn’t thrown anything deep. There’s no way Canales doesn’t already realize how limited Bryce is
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And it’s just so obvious. Every ball he throws takes forever to get to where it needs to be which is why he needs to be playing 3 steps ahead of everyone else. Last year showed his processing is never going to get to a place where he can make up for a lack of arm strength. Even the guys tweeting out plays during camp. I see Dalton at least attempting to go deep at least once daily. There’s none of that from Bryce. Young’s physical limitations will forever handcuff an offense. Like I’ve said, if Bryce looks serviceable this year that speaks volumes to Canales’ abilities as a coach
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So that’s 4 days now without a single deep completion from Bryce