SmokinwithWilly

A RB now has to have 60 yards a game to get 1000 yards on the season. It's not as hard to get to anymore but a lot of teams are also doing RBBC so there aren't as many bell cow backs any more.

How is that even fugging possible.

When's the next leadership council? Can't do anything until the next leadership council.

Can't really trade Moton either. His 2 year extension has a 21.5m signing bonus.

Chuba is running like a RB that just got a 2nd contract. Rico is running like a RB on a contract year. Rico is going to be the more aggressive of the 2 because he's trying to get paid. Contract year performances are what they are. Just don't be the team to pay a big contract based off a contract year.

Are we sure about that

But if you look back over the years, it's been pretty much plug and play. Sanders averaged almost 5 YPC and we saw what happened when he came to Carolina.

Open to it, just how we deal with the contract is the only question. I expect they will want us to eat some of it to get to a 4th. When you spend a fortune on your oline, you don't pay RBs. Dallas and Philly have been a model for this. Dallas used to be and Philly has pretty much been plug and play at RB and <insert name here> have a career year.

Or we could have used the Rams 1sts instead of our own to trade up to 1, taken Bryce, kept DJ Moore still ended up with the number 1 overall, and either traded it away for a haul, or taken a serious look at Williams, Dart, Maye and Daniels if we were less than impressed with what we saw out of Bryce. It was so simple and right there for the taking. Fug you Scott Fittershits.

The year he had another edge rusher opposite him in Reddick, Reddick ended up having more sacks. Burns was good at rushing the passer here but he was taken out of plays far too often by a single TE or you'd never even known he was in the game at all. The Rams offer was equivalent to prime Khalil Mack or a TJ Watt. Those guys single handedly took over games and stopped drives. I can't remember a game Burns ever did that. Do we wish we had the level of production hes giving right now? Of course. Do I think we'd have it here. No. At the time, his production was on par with Reddick, not Parsons. Pay production and incentivise potential.

We have to decide 5th year option this off season.

It's not just about being cheaper. Dalton was washed last year. So saying who's better is just a lame argument because it's not even trying to do anything. Who was available? Daniel Jones at 14m Jacoby Brissett @ 6.25m Jameis @ 4m Flacco @ 4.25m Rudolph @ 3.75m Lance @ 2m Or we could have tried to trade for Howell, who though he played badly his one season starting in Washington was behind a sieve of an offensive line with no running game. There were options. We didnt have to go with Dalton, but he was comfortable and no challenge to Bryce or a threat to the starting job which is what I think Tepper ultimately wanted. Even if we didnt get better than Dalton, judging by what we saw Sunday, would it have been much worse? So we lose by 40 instead of 30.

8 YPC vs 2.5 YPC. Doesn't matter if Chuba was a good player in the past for us or not. 8 YPC is sustaining drives and exhausting a defense. 500 yards of offense by a RB in 2 weeks hadn't been done by anyone in 14 years. You ride that hot hand regardless of feelings. It's not a slight to Chuba. Guys get hot and when they do, you let them burn. If it had been Chuba over Rico we would be saying the same thing. Let the guys playing the best football play.

We had an opportunity to beat Buffalo if we had let Rico exhaust their defense at 8YPC instead of staying fresh at Chuba's 2.5YPC, giving them plenty of energy to plaster Dalton. Poor game planning and recognition by DC. Not saying we would have won, but we certainly could have negated some of the rest that bye week had provided. Our defense certainly looked gassed chasing Cook all over the field 10 yards at a time.

I wasn't disagreeing with what you were saying. I totally agree with it. I went back and looked up my initial response to re-signing Dalton and it was just what I thought. I hated it because we needed to do better than Dalton. This has all along felt like a quest by Tepper to prove himself as smart as all the Mel Kiper Jrs and smarter than all the football guys who said Bryce wouldn't translate to the NFL game. Our biggest problem isnt Bryce, DC, Evero or DM. It's Tepper's giant fugging ego.

If I remember correctly, it was a condition that Bryce was to remain firmly in place as QB for whoever took either job. I'd imagine that and Tepper's track record as a boss really limited the hiring pool.

It's why Frank checked out as soon as Bryce was drafted. He didn't believe in him at draft time and he certainly didn't believe he was ready opening day. Body language says a lot and Franks said get me the F out of this clown show.

He was also sold as the highest floor, lowest ceiling of the top 3 as well, and so far, the floor has been a basement apartment in Venice.

Its the Panthers retirement plan. Sign a big contract. Work 2 years or less. Get fired. Retirement or go elsewhere with enough money to never work again a day in your life.

I think "C" is being generous for the coaching staff. I'd give them an F and that's because there's nothing lower. DC and Evero are beyond stubborn, lack any ability to adapt in game, and can't recognize simple football concepts like play your best players when they're hot or design systems around the players you have, not the ones you wish you had. This is someone the worst coaching this team has seen, and we suffered through OOU with Matt Rhule.

Yeah. That ain't working out so well.

Why do you need a leadership conference to state the obvious? Can't make a decision in game because we have to hold a conference to decide what's the right move. Come on man.

I actually think going to schools like Bama that have top recruiting classes hurts QBs. They're so heavily loaded that it's hard to really evaluate them because the competition level is rarely even. Of the 63 SEC draftees out of 16 schools in Bryce's class, Bama and Georgia each had 10. That's 30% between 2 schools, so unless those 2 schools are facing off, the caliber of competition isn't near even. I actually prefer taking a lesser overall ranked QB who may have faced more competition because you have a better idea of what he's really like on an even playing field. This isn't a slight at Bryce. Mac Jones and many other Bama QBs don't live up to the hype either

I hate to give credit where it's due.But arizona took one season of josh rosen and said, nope, he's out of here

Never force a pick because you need one. Find the best one you can, whether it be in FA or the draft. Desperate teams do stupid things. Before we go draft a QB, how about we get a head coach that doesn't lack complete situational awareness and wants to win more than protect feelings.