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It's all perspective

I think the overreactions to the overreactions are just as annoying. People can discuss the product they're seeing on the field and the way the front office has handled things without being a hater.

I've seen far more nuance discussions going on than just "bRyce sux" Have you seen what's been said about the receiving core and the runningbacks?

Yea alot these guys are some sensitive Nancy's but they dont any problem calling our receivers, bums, scrubs, and anything else can think of. Nobody is attacking Byrce or has given up on him developing. Some people simply think that trade was wild to begin with, and now faced with how the offense has been looked the last two weeks, are starting to revisit some questions that were already there. Hopefully this week in Seattke we can see some improvement offensively it sucks watching games knowing the defense is going to have to nearly pitch a shutout for us to have a chance.

Evidence suggest our rookie Qb threw 2 gimme picks that set them up in scoring position. But like you said it's only 2 games in a 17 game season alot can happen from here.

Hurney: Hit home runs in the 1st rounds Low batting percentage in the following rounds. Created poor depth, hated his conservative bargain bin Free agency strategy. Gettleman: Egomaniac Hit and miss in the 1st round Strange double and triple down strategy in the draft for same position. Refusal to pay talented vets, roster yo yo effect. Poor morale. Fittier: Like his aggressive style. Net results haven't panned out yet. Too liberal with giving up draft picks Too early on draft selections

Wirh all do respect that's ridiculous. Desmond Ridder had 4 career starts going into the season, he's far from a polished Qb the Falcons have as much question marks as we do. All 4 teams in the South have question marks. We're the only winless team in the division because our offense execution has been the poorest. That needs to be cleaned up. If this staff is a good as people have touted.

I understand all of this. Again the video verbatim said the Panthers don't have a complete roster; not schematics, but we don't have the talent to compete in the NFC South. I call B.S. Of course there is going to be some adjustment with new staff. Not surprising we lost the these first 2 games. But to say we don't have the talent to compete with 2 teams that won 5 or 6 games last season. Fitt needs to fired immediately if that's the case.

Lord now the injury excuses, all teams have injuries they have to overcome you genius. That wasn't premise of the video, the video stated the Panthers don't have the roster to compete against the Saints and the Falcons. But good news only morons believe that.

You're an idiot not a theory. We paid Sanders for what then to downgrade the runningback position, damn yall some morons.

Skill positions you mean Moore again? Because besides him we upgraded in that department. Tightend upgraded. Hubbard and Foreman ran roughshod in the 2nd half of the season. Sanders ran for 1200 last season so theoretically that's a upgrade also.

So Moore was the difference. He was underpaid then during his stint here.

What's unrealistic about competing in what many considered to be a weak division. If the Saints and Falcons can make moves to improve in the off-season, it's "unrealistic" for Panther fans to want the same. "Taken a step back" Losing Dj Moore? Foreman? Where have we taken a step back at?

Bs. We were just laughing a season ago about the Saints aging roster, how the Falcons were in disarray and once Tom Brady retires, the division should be Panthers. No all of a sudden we've got the worst roster. There's nobody on the Saints Dline I would take over Brian Burns or Derek Brown. Old man Cameron Jordan give me a break. Luvu and Shaq (before injury) were as formidable of Lb duo as there is in the NFC South. Our secondary (before injury) was the best. Offensively Sanders and Hubbard are a decent backfield, Who is Baker Mayfield handing it off to? Who was Derek Carr's Rb Monday night? The only question marks are at Wr, Qb and the coaching staff. And right now it's looking like the Saints have the best combo of head coach and Qb in the NFC south.

It definitely isn't all on Bryce he's a rookie who hasn't played a quarter of a season yet. I'm not sold on the terrible receiver narrative just yet. I do think Bryce is forcing too many passes to Mingo there connect percentage is terrible. Most of my blame has been on the playcalling, but Bryce has to play better as well. I want to see what the offense looks like with Dalton before I draw too many conclusions.

If this injury does sideline Young it may be a blessing in disguise. Allows the coaches to take a second look at why the offense is floundering, we supposedly have an all-star crew, and Qb gurus, so it's no way we should be ranked dead last in passing. Is it the playcalling, skill positions, or the game being too fast for Byrce right now. Sunday can help answer alot of that, and see what adjustments need to be made going forward.

I agree. Not that Young is trash, he's a rookie whose struggling. He isn't the first and he won't be the last. Some of these guys act like it's asinine to say that the rookie is struggling. Oh it's the receivers, oh it's the line. I've seen alot of Panthers football this Oline is one of the more talented groups we have, yes there is some injuries, but Byrce hasn't been under any abnormal about of pressure. He's been hesitant to go with with his reads, and holding the ball too long. Now some are saying it's because the receivers are not open. Well Sunday if Dalton starts we will see if the receivers are as bad as its being made out to be. Nobody who calls themselves a fan wants Bryce to fail, we gave up way too much, but if he's not ready, maybe he needs to sit and watch ala Mahomes and other Qbs have done.

Winning franchises would pay a premier pass rusher before a receiver any day of the week. It's teams like the Panthers that would do foolishness like that in reverse. Stroud threw for 384 yards and his leading receiver was a rookie receiver taken a round later than we took Mingo. The Rams have a rookie named Puka Nacua leading the league in receptions. Good coordinators can scheme people open.

Will Chicago atleast pay for our Uber back home?

Why is Chubbard in the game running routes if he not viable option. A clear first down if Byrce get the ball out to the back. I have no idea what you mean by reliant, you get the ball to the open guy who is able to advance it, that's how efficient offenses work.

So what do you call this defense

This was early in the game, that wasn't prevent defense.

I think Hubbard's improved in that area. But for whatever reason the Saints were leaving the flats open all game. The drive that we emphasized the flats is the drive we scored on. He seems to be struggling to get the ball in the tight windows, make the defense account for the whole field and there will be holes in the zone. Brady made a killing with this.

There are plays to be made out there, everybody is not covered. He needs to get the backs more involved in the passing game. Go back at look at the last scoring drive his top receiver was Hubbard. The play below resulted in an incompletion. The Saints defense didn't even bother defending Hubbard.

Trade McCaffrey Trade Moore Trade Burns While they are all in their prime Now that's the ticket to winning.