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Jim Harbaugh Sean Payton HATE them both, but will welcome either with open arms as I'm 99% sure either of them could get this team with Baker back to contention and our first back to back winning seasons/sustained success. I'm sick of losing, enough nice likeable guys. Hire the biggest piece of poo out there like Payton and I don't care as long as we win.

I disagree that any of these 4 games are difficult. Other than Murray none of these teams have QBs better than Brissett and the rest of their rosters are not as good as the Browns. That said I don't have much hope of winning these games the way we embarrassed ourselves yesterday.

Just got around to finishing the game. I know it’s only week 1 but I think this is the most embarrassed I’ve ever been as a Panthers fan. fug Tepper and his fuging losers he’s hired to run this poo team. At least under JR and Hurney we’d have spurts of relevance.

Baker goes off for 4 TDs and 300 yards with no turnovers. Panthers win 31-13.

Maybe. But Boze is also coming off a high ankle sprain. Yes he's been back at practice and seems close to healthy, but big O linemen and high ankle sprains don't go well together. I think we're taking our time with him, and wisely.

Boze would be the guy if not for his injury. I think it'll be 1-2 games, and not even necessarily because of Elf struggles. Easy to make a change and say Boze wasn't quite ready to start week 1 coming off the injury.

RE Dorsey, give it time before evaluating him as an OC, no film on him at all. I’m not sold on him and he’s got an insane amount of talent to work with so he should be having significant success.

Yeah I’ve had that happen too, it’s annoying as hell. Usually when I fall asleep on the couch inadvertently

The RB was right there I believe

I took that into account with my statement…

I can’t imagine playing with constant numbness. I hate being numb, maybe you just get used to it but still. Not sure if you follow tennis at all but one of the all time greats Rafa Nadal played and won a few major tournaments this year with a completely numb foot he couldn’t feel at all. Completely insane what some of these guys play through.

I’d kill to have him in Panthers blue but I think Allen is a bit overrated. Not quite in the top tier that guys like Mahomes and Rodgers are in, just below them.

And lol Stafford. What a sloppy mess of a game

Lol Bills

Not a great throw but that’s the receiver’s fault

This is gonna be a shootout ain’t it

I wouldn’t make that assumption, statistically. I’m not gonna take the time to look at every team’s schedule and compare but just the numbers you provided don’t stand out to me as being particularly easy, statistically. The only way to make sense of and take anything away from it would be to compare across all teams and the full schedule.

Ok but what did other teams play? You'd have to look at our opponent's average rush offense ranking vs. other teams' opponents average rush offense ranking for those stats to mean anything. Picking out 8 out of 17 games without any other context is meaningless.

fug your fantasy team hope we hold Chubb to negative yards and no TDs

Ehh they did make the NFCCG last year and Shanahan has done incredible things with the team pretty much whenever Jimmy G has been healthy and playing decently. Lance is a question mark but at least offers massive upside over Jimmy G. I don't think they win the NFCW either but I don't think it's that outrageous. There are big surprises every year and many teams do suffer SB hangovers, plus Stafford's shoulder is a question mark too.

Strongly disagree on OL and QB. Our starting OL is set and likely to be above average and we have better depth players there than many teams, especially considering Brady's ability to shift to tackle if Moton or Ickey were to go down. Elf and Irving, while not ideal starters, are solid backups as is Jordan. QB, I know we all hate Sam, after last year I never wanted to see him in a Panthers jersey again. His contract is a disaster and he's not a starter in this league. But he is a better backup than most teams have. He has plenty of issues but most backups have significantly worse issues and aren't even capable of playing at the level that Sam is capable of playing, as we saw from him the first month of last season. Reality is for 95% of teams if their starting QB goes down long term they are completely fuged. You'll have some outliers like Foles/Eagles, Cassel/Pats (they missed playoffs but went 11-5), etc. The question is whether your backup can win a game or a small number of games if the starter misses a shorter amount of time. I don't like Sam or his contract one bit but I'll gladly take him over guys like John Wolford, Blaine Gabbert, Brian Hoyer, etc. We disagree, so be it. I hope we never find out who is right and we just stay healthy.

89 should absolutely be retired, along with 51. 1, 58, 59 I don't believe have been worn since their retirements and they have arguments as well to never be worn again but not as set in stone to me as Smitty and Mills.

Defensive front 7 is thin but other than that I think we're pretty deep. Foreman is a solid backup RB, TE we don't have a great starter but have a handful of decent backup guys, WR as you said is deep, QB is deep with Sam healthy (although drastically overpaid), and OL is probably deeper than it's ever been (deep enough that Daley who has started a bunch of games for us and was sought after by another team couldn't even make our roster). DB our deepest it's ever been too.

who calls him Eke...? Most critical outside of Baker and our OL is definitely our run defense. I expect Chubb and Hunt to have success against our run D but we need to mitigate the damage significantly better than our run D from last year if we want to win. I think this offense is going to take a few months to really gel and the defense will need to prove itself early if we're going to be a true playoff contender.

sweet hope that's the case for me, I'll get back from a 4 hour drive and hopefully sit down to watch a nice win with Baker dominating