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I mean he’ll get humbled at some point and realistically speaking a top 10 pick in his 4th year vs. a rookie should be capable of doing that. He’s got the right attitude though. I’m rooting for both and hope Princely is right and he’s just THAT good and Ickey is great, too.

This was like 2 pages of mostly talk about safeties and then you started spiraling because someone questioned your awful take, posting multiple times in a row before anybody even responded to you. Is this about some guy saying something on Twitter or about Princely crying in a corner because Canales “crushed his confidence” by answering a question? It’s hard to get a read when you’re making back to back posts all complaining about different things. All 32 defenses have the same rule every year. Sometimes it gets broken, then the coaches coach. I’ve seen coaches flip out on Hard Knocks over it, fights break out, etc. This is very basic stuff and nothing new and has no effect on how hard a defense plays. Nobody is destroying Princely or unhappy with the effort. It was a coachable moment that could have ruined the season and very fortunately did not. That’s it. I’m sure the team has moved on and this thread would have likely moved on as well if you weren’t so zealous in your hatred of our starting QB.

Lol some people would rather see the starting QB injured than see a 3rd round pick get coached.

Just Disney buying everything what else is new.

Again, it may have nothing to do with Bryce Young. The coaches are thinking about the whole roster. Many guys have said how much different this off-season has been not having to start from square 1 with a playbook, language, etc. You’re talking about bringing in a guy to lead the 2nd team offense who they now have to spend time teaching. Every team is different. This team is young and developing across the board and trying to find some positive continuity. With how Morgan and Canales have approached everything I’m fairly certain they considered all possibilities and decided it was best for the overall team to roll with Dalton for now. They value whatever it is they feel Dalton brings over the extremely low probability of whatever washed out, journey man, reclamation project developing into a franchise QB. You and I have no idea why and aren’t there in the meetings, but it’s clear that the FO sees this young failed franchise QB project as less likely to pan out than you do.

To everybody who wants some random “developmental” QB as a backup, consider that the coaches may like Dalton as a backup for reasons that have nothing to do with Bryce Young. I’m sure it’s helpful having multiple QBs in practice who can run the offense and know where the ball is supposed to go when. Time that coaches don’t have to spend developing another QB when we have basically a whole roster to develop is valuable time. I guarantee Dalton is more helpful to developing our 2nd team offense than some random 6th round pick. That’s guys like Jalen Coker who are benefiting.

Hope not. Still think Icky would be better at RT or G.

Did you read my post? I was talking about what the Cowboys would be willing to trade for a fully guaranteed contract may have been less than what we got. It’s nice to say “just draft better”. I wish the Panthers drafted 7 hall of famers ever year. But since that isn’t the reality, and the reality is the Panthers have had trouble hitting on 2nd rounders their entire history, I’d still like the team have whatever flexibility possible if they bust, and hopefully we also draft better and never have to worry about it.

This. People say it doesn’t matter, but it does. If Mingo’s contract was fully guaranteed, the trade compensation may have been completely different. Imagine getting a 6th round pick instead of a 4th. Does that make a difference? Imagine nobody wants to trade for him at all and we have to cut him outright. It matters.

I feel like it’s been too long since anybody said it, so I’ll refresh the sentiment once again: fug the Texans.

You forgot the goat: He Hate Me.

Wish I had any faith in the CO to do a good job with this. They hated Cam. Will never forget them publishing the whiny letter from that dumb, sore-loser, Tennessee Titans karen. The paper did not stand behind that team. I’ll still give it a shot but this just feels inauthentic given the source.

I didn’t say it was new, I said it was silly to put one blanket statement over everybody, and if you insist on calling them lotto picks then it’s dumb to act like they are all the exact same odds, and that you have to apply the logic to everybody. And you keep leaving out my whole point about this “proven 1000 yd receiver”. 1000 yd receiver who’s 31yr old, been on the downswing since 2022, and coming off a major knee injury. And I’ve talked about 2 Panthers RBs and Tmac from the word go so you make up a list of 3 that only includes 1 of them when the list in question is not even a ranking of “big 3’s”. I mean you are clearly just ignoring everything I’m saying and picking whatever makes the Panthers look worst just to die on whatever hill you’re on so you do you. The list is dumb, I’m sorry you like it more than I do.

You didn’t really address the point, just like you ignored the point about the RBs initially, and saying “they are all lotto picks” is just a really silly reduction because you could say that about literally any player rookie or vet every snap, every game, every year. It is well known that different positions have different hit rates, and I would argue different types of prospects within position groups as well, and that hit rates change the further down in the draft you go. Everybody knows QB is different and that, for example, first round OL have a really high success rate. Using your lotto ticket analogy…again…you are saying a lotto ticket with a 1 in 100 chance of hitting is the exact same thing as a lotto ticket with a 1 in 2 chance of hitting (this is an example, don’t take these odds literally). The point was he is no more of a lotto ticket than the 31yr old receiver coming off a major knee injury, and in my opinion he is better odds with a higher potential “jackpot”. Saying one player is an “lotto ticket” while another isn’t is just not sound logic. You have no idea who will break out, regress, get injured, etc. There are safer bets than others, that’s all. I don’t think Diggs is a safe bet and even if he was, weighing him over all of the Panthers WRs plus 2 1k rushers is just dumb. You can disagree if you want. The list is stupid.

I don’t view Tmac as a lotto ticket. Size and hands translate, this isn’t some speed guy like John Ross getting over drafted based on a 40 time. Now, the 31yr old coming off a major knee injury, that’s like a $10 scratcher with a $5k jackpot. The list sucks.

Not sure if anything should be made of it, but Coker noticeably absent. No Renfrow either. Those are 2 guys I would think would be fighting for their place in the pecking order and getting more reps with QB1 to develop timing and feel would seem to be important.

Add a #1 receiver and 1000yd rusher to the 28th ranked unit, lose nobody of any value, and you get the 31st ranked unit? Makes no sense.

Well, I got one right.

Or wait, is it just guys drafted by the Panthers but not necessarily long time Panthers? If so, Evan Mathis?

Haven’t looked at anything including comments. OL I’m assuming Ryan Kalil since I don’t know who else it would be. 3 DBs is interesting since we don’t have a great history of DBs. I’m guessing one is Josh Norman since he was drafted pretty late. I don’t remember when Gamble was drafted but I could see it being him if he was drafted 3rd round or later. And maybe Minter?

Oh I see, carry on.

They are practicing. Putting in their contracts that they can’t practice outside of what the CBA allows the team to do would be an excellent way to stay the worst team in the league forever.

Yeah it’s just too bad there’s not another Hornets franchise out there for us to trade all these second round picks to for a lotto pick.

That would be interesting but I would definitely want them to go to a hard cap if they went that route. And if they ever got rid of the draft completely, boy if you think the Hornets are fugged now…

Well everybody and their momma thought he sounded bought in when he was interviewed post-draft, which was when I posted. All that other stuff you mentioned just came out and I made that post a day and a half ago the morning after he was drafted when he sounded pretty bought in. The Jazz say there’s no problems atp, so we’ll see. But yeah obviously if his actions don’t match up with his words it will be a shitty look.