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That would be interesting but I would definitely want them to go to a hard cap if they went that route. And if they ever got rid of the draft completely, boy if you think the Hornets are fugged now…

Well everybody and their momma thought he sounded bought in when he was interviewed post-draft, which was when I posted. All that other stuff you mentioned just came out and I made that post a day and a half ago the morning after he was drafted when he sounded pretty bought in. The Jazz say there’s no problems atp, so we’ll see. But yeah obviously if his actions don’t match up with his words it will be a shitty look.

As unathletic as he is compared to other NBA players, Luka is still a superior athlete to Knueppel and has way better length for his size and still struggles defensively. We’ve also seen fat James Harden put up video game numbers offensively but couldn’t play defense. I’m sure Knueppel will at least try harder on D than those 2, so there is that at least.

As one of the biggest Miller over Scoot stans at that time, this is clearly different because everything is all about me and what I want. But in all seriousness, I think most of the argument against Miller at that time was about off the court stuff but on the court he was clearly the better player. So if I had to compare, I would say this feels more like if we had drafted not Scoot instead of Miller, but a player ranked more around 6th on big boards instead of either. Bailey was pretty much universally a top 3 player in this draft and Knueppel was not.

Culture change comes from the top down, not from drafting a 3 and no D guard. I doubt Lamelo is gonna take his cues from this 20yr old kid lol. If Brandon Miller couldn’t change the culture with how good he is and how much he hustles on both ends, Kon Knueppel sure as hell ain’t changing it. Ace Bailey by all accounts is also a great teammate and hard worker, btw, who was drafted by a team he supposedly didn’t want to go to yet he immediately bought in. And he’s got actual length and tools on both ends of the floor. I feel this pick is going to age like milk rather quickly.

And one of the bigs went off the board immediately after. Wouldn’t be surprised to see another big go before we pick again.

How do you not draft a big to try to develop after trading Williams?

You know the Mark Williams trade would make a lot more sense if we had someone like, say, Jalen Duren on the roster as well. When it’s all said and done we’ll have traded Mark Williams and Jalen Duren for Nick Smith Jr. and 6 d league players. Somebody needs to tell the Hornets that collecting a bunch of d league players won’t cause them to Voltron into lottery picks. We’ve got a sign around our necks “will trade lottery picks for all your most worthless picks”

You can’t convince me this franchise doesn’t exist just to be a feeder for the rest of the league. They just bend over and take it at every turn.

This franchise is so dumb but not entirely unexpected. The other team Bailey’s camp said he didn’t want had the balls to draft him and we didn’t. Name a franchise more obsessed with drafting second fiddle dook players.

I hadn’t seen that they singled out the Hornets and Jazz…that sucks. Still they should draft him, I don’t think teams in general should bend to players trying to dictate who drafts them.

Their defensive weaknesses in their draft profiles read like carbon copies, lack of athleticism to match with superior nba athletes, lateral agility, etc. Like I said, there’s no shortage of defensive liability mid athletes who can catch and shoot 3s. He’s projected high because he’s a tall guard who shot a high % and he defended well in college, but he doesn’t even have good length for his height and every single draft profile has questions about his ability to defend at the next level. If he stayed in school another year and dipped to even 38% from 3 he’d be a late first maybe second. He’s getting hype off small sample size where his weaknesses weren’t sufficiently exposed and an efficiency rate that is all but guaranteed to come down. Singler was a projected lotto pick after 1 year, too, he just stayed in school long enough for everybody to see how low his ceiling was.

He hasn’t worked out for anybody and only scheduled one work out, which he cancelled (76ers). I’ve heard he doesn’t want to play for certain teams, but I’ve never seen any proof that the Hornets are specifically one of them, just speculation and guesswork. Either way, the Hornets don’t get a pass for trading Kobe just because Kobe wanted to go to a bigger market, and if Ace Bailey turns out to be great they won’t get a pass for passing up on him either, so they should draft him either way.

Fingers crossed for Ace Bailey. Him not doing any workouts could be a huge blessing in disguise for us if he falls out of the top 3. Hope the team doesn’t mess it up.

Pray to god we don’t take the next Jon Scheyer/Kyle Singler/etc. with the #4 overall pick. The league has plenty of mid-athlete 3pt shooters that can’t defend superior athletes, we don’t need to waste a top 5 draft pick on one.

Everything on all sides has been said a thousand times over and engaging with you about it in the past was more pointless than shouting into the wind. I’m good.

I haven’t listened, but based on who is posting this you just know it’s gonna be scratching his anti-Bryce itch. Can’t wait for the season.

ESPN latest mock has Hornets passing up on Ace Bailey to take Kon, and we’d be just dumb enough to do that.

One fumble all year but boy was it a big one.

That is so bad. Even worse, it’s bad and unoriginal. If you need to auto tune a basic ass flow like that then just stop.

Also, I haven’t seen much national media hype for this team so wherever you are seeing all this cause for concern please post links so I can inject all the hopium straight into my brain.

I don’t really believe that what we talk about in the off-season has much to do with what the team does this coming season, but if you did wouldn’t it make more sense to be as hyped as possible? Like if fans were super hyped and excited and felt the team was a real contender to the point of selling out our home games and painting BOA in Panthers blue wouldn’t that help the team, not hurt it? I don’t get the kill the vibe approach and never have.

That’s really not what you said and when I even expressed doubt as to your intentions with the post you doubled down and remained unclear on whether you were trying to drag Dean Smith for whatever reason. You just got the facts wrong, which if you don’t follow the local college programs like you say then maybe you just were mistaken and thought Smith didn’t win championships or have legit superstars, and that is ok, but you just doubled down when my first post was more corrective than anything. I’m not sure what you expect posting objectively false things like “RBA has a lot of wins with nothing to show for it like Dean Smith” (paraphrasing) on a message board with plenty of UNC fans. I’m not taking it as a personal affront, we can agree to disagree, Dean Smith’s legacy fortunately will not be affected by this conversation. Screw the (Florida) Panthers?

Eh, they’re just trying to generate enthusiasm to sell tickets. I think it might be their job or something.

I just think the guy erred a little too hard on the not wanting to look like he was favoring a team he likes. Panthers had the 25th best record last year so they already proved better than 28th, albeit only slightly. And this guy loved our draft, had Tmac as one of only 4 blue chip prospects in the draft, and said in this video that we improved or stayed neutral at every single position group, so I just don’t get the ranking. It really doesn’t matter, it’s just confusing. That said, I do enjoy the depth in the video and having 2hrs of in depth panthers content to look at in the offseason. I wish our local media was better.