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The bucs were 20th in ppg last season. Guess what the Panthers were in 2022.

Hey david. I know you read this forum. at least you have one of your clapping seals check it out and report back to you to get the "pulse of the fans" or whatever meaningless corporate catchphrase you use to describe the people that loathe you. Congrats on another coaching hire! I know nothing gets you going like making a head coaching change. You done it, what now, six or seven times since buying the team? I lose track. Enjoy this moment; it's your super bowl, and definitely the closest you'll ever get to it. I bet you're planning on going out into your feudal demanse and exercising your right to prima nocte on the first unsuspecting peasant you find, or whatever it is rich perverts like you do for fun. Just a couple questions about the hire. Are you going to make him keep Chris Tabor? Everyone knows he's your inside guy and was knifing people behind the scenes. In fact he's likely done it to two coaches, since the end of the Rhule era was akin to the last days in Hitler's bunker. You've been accused of hiring yes men... are you going to make the new head coach keep your little Rasputin? Surely Canales knows about this and asked about. Won't send the best message to the targets for your vodka sodas if you keep Tabor around. The Panthers are the only team that requested to interview Canales. Is this because no one else thought he was ready for a head coaching interview? Are we supposed to believe that you are smarter than the rest of the league? I know you really want everyone to think that, and you moved a bunch of zeros and ones around a spreadsheet in a way that made you lots of other numbers in a bank account, and a lot of people equate this to intelligence. Is anyone supposed to trust you right now? Canales' offense last year was 20th in points and 23rd in yards last season. That's with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, who the Panthers don't have and won't be able to draft after the Bryce fiasco. Is this what a hot hire looks like? A guy who produced a bottom/average offense? The panthers were 20th in the league in ppg in 2022 and you decided not to bring that coach back. Also you traded away both of the best players from that offense to get a QB that put up the second worst rookie qb season in modern league history. Speaking of QBs, I'm sure you are impressed by his work with Baker Mayfield. Lots of people talk about Baker's reclamation, but his stats this year were similar to what they were in 2018 and 2020. Baker has bad years when he's hurt (2021) or when he's on a dumpster fire team like the Browns in 2019 and....your panthers in 2022. Is it a successful reclamation project or a successful hostage extraction. Guess we'll find out! but luckily for Panthers fans, if all goes as well, we'll have a slightly above mediocre offense to cheer for in 2024. Huzzah! But let's talk about that offense. Baker Mayfield was 8th in the league in play action passes in 2023, and Bryce was 18th. I don't pay for the fancy stats that break down how they did per pass, but I do know Baker played under center, and Bryce...well Bryce was not as much. I also know from tons of film breakdowns that are easy to find on youtube that Bryce struggles with PA from center because he's not able to turn his head away from the line to sell it. He has to peak the entire time because he's too small and will lose the receivers in their routes. Did he address this at all? Did you ask? Bucs offense has a TON of weapons. Without pointing fingers, the panthers...don't. In the past you've said Bryce doesn't need wide receivers because he's a point guard. Do you still believe that? Are we going chase some free agents to Carolina? Tee Higgens is probably going to Tennessee to work with a coach that wanted nothing to do with you. Are you going to command under penalty of being fired Dan Morgan to break the bank on Mike Evans, a guy who's played 10 years in the league and is on the wrong side of thirty? A player that Panthers fans all rightly hate? How many years did you promise this guy? Panthers need several drafts worth of good players, and by the time you cold realistically get that team in place, Bryce will be in his...what? Third, fourth year? Staring down an extension? So the Panthers never really get to benefit from the biggest advantage of a rookie qb: cost control. Are you going to fire this guy when Bryce is still making you look like an idiot? A dramatically improved Bryce is probably not even league average. Will Bryce be entering the end of his rookie deal with ANOTHER new head coach...if he even survives. Oh yeah, protecting Bryce. Bryce was second in the league in sacks last year. Baker, with Canales as OC, with better players at basically every position, was...8th. Am I supposed to believe that a QB smaller than your wife is going to survive long enough to get a San Fran caliber team around him to overcome his deficiencies? Any congrats to canales. He's getting life changing, fug you money for a contract he'll likely never see the end of. But don't worry about that DAvid. It just means you get to do your favorite thing; hire coaches to try to prove you're smarter than the rest of the NFL. Dave Canales - young, little experience offensive coordinator to head coach Thomas Brown - young, little experience RB coach to offensive coordinator Joe Brady - young, college offensive coordinator to offensive coordinator This time David, it'll work. You'll show all those other idiot owners who the real genius is, and they'll all tell you how cool and neat and respected you are via emails you can read at wherever rich sickos go now that Epstein's island is off line. Just some thoughts about questions you could answer next time you deign to speak to us mere mortals.

His unit wasn’t even good. they were bottom end of average.

20th in points 23rd in yards

Panthers were the only team to interview him are you willing to believe tepper is smarter than the rest of the league?

When a first year coordinator leads a team with Evans and Godwin to twentieth in points and 23rd in total yards, in the dogshit nfc south including a 9 point explosion in a must win game against the panthers….well you gotta jump on that.

obviously CJ Stroud probably isn't having the 2nd or 3rd best season for a rookie QB ever if he comes to Carolina. However, he undoubtedly performs better than the 2nd worst season for a rookie qb in the modern era. Josh Rosen, Bryce says thanks. Additionally, you have a qb who mechanically and physically looks the part far more than Bryce does. This is a contentious point because for some reason Bryce defenders think offensive line play effects every single part of Bryce's terrible arm, mechanics, consistency, and throwing motion, even though all these problems were evident at Alabama.

he's insecure as poo and he's going to show up in a muscle suit to interview mike vrabel like George Michael

honestly an overpriced craft pizza "experience" was probably ahead of its time in Charlotte, when it opened. today in charlotte, if you opened an expensive pizza joint that did some craft beers, "pizza artists," some cocktail mixologists, and uh i don't know a dog friendly indoors area with some places to take IG photos they'd have a line out the door. Morgan was ahead of his time imo

no but arthur smith is and that's the exact direction the panthers need to go if vrabel is available and they don't pull the trigger i don't know man. I don't know. Gotta think Morgan is vouching for him. Hell, vrabel scored a TD in front of Dan in the Super Bowl. God damn this play can't be guarded in man. Look at Peppers accidentally picking Al Wallace. And this was before offensive pass interference, er, pick plays, became the norm

becaues this is just a fuging game for a couple of rich freaks who don't relate to reality like you or I do because of the excesses of late stage capitalism

like i've said in multiple threads, it makes no sense someone who played linebacker in the NFL would think Bryce could work. If Suleiman really did push for Bryce, and Morgan was like "lol. lmao" then its time to pay the piper.

Oh he’s absolutely not big enough for tennis. All your top male players would dwarf him. Maybe in like the eighties. Topspin make a tennis ball very heavy. You have to have enough body mass to absorb it and hit it back. It’s why even like half drunk male country club pros can beat top ranked females; the ball they hit is just too heavy. It’s also the reason Pete Sampras serve was so deadly; it felt like a brick hitting your racquet. My dad played with Pete and Agassi at a pro - am Charlotte racquet club in like 1991. It was just a hit and giggle fundraiser but he said Sampras knocked his racquet out of his hand until he got used to it. But yeah those dudes are huge now. I was a decently ranked junior tennis player until it turned out my height in sixth grade was as tall as I was going to get. ask me about drawing John Isner at sectionals and him being like six foot twenty in eighth grade. He blew me off the court.

wow saints legend dan morgan

Worse than the Sean Gilbert trade.

these are unrealistic individually and contradictory when done together. bryce managed to eat himself to 200 for the combine, but he didn't throw and there were reports he was playing his last year at Alabama at 165. He has a very slight frame, and there's a limit to how much someone can realistically put on their body. And it's not like he was playing at a D3 school; Alabama knows what they're doing in S&C. Now there is some thought that Alabama doesn't let their QBs lift weights that much, but that might ahve just been an excuse for why mac jones looked like poo. Obviously Jalen Hurts was lifting. But even if he puts on 10 pounds of pure muscle (more than 10% of his likely bodymass) he's still going to be undersized. And the only thing that he was good at this year was scrambling. you change his body comp, you're going to lose that. And then at the same time if you're doing all that, that's not the ideal thing to do if you're trying to work on his throwing motion and footwork. You dont want to substantially change his body composition while changing all his footwork and throwing motion. And frankly if the number 1 overall pick is a qb who needs his footwork and throwing motion completely changed...well...he shouldn't have been the number 1 pick, but I don't think anyone is arguing that anymore. so yeah, his frame is too little to add enough weight for him to physically belong in the nfl, and doing so would make it difficult to change all his mechanics and would take away from his ability to scramble cut his ass

Bryce also fumbled the ball 11 times this year, and he's in pretty bad company in regards to that, with the exception of Lamar Jackson but let's not pretend he's comparable. Sam Howell who was sacked more often only fumbled four times. For comparison, Kyle Allen fumbled 7 times in 13 games and this was considered completely unacceptable.

I actually would prefer if we went defense and running. There's such a push to get the next "offensive genius" it's created a market inefficiency with defensive players. It's similar to how the steelers were dominant in the mid to late nineties because teams went away from the 3-4 base defense and they had their pick of the players. Build a defense, then develop the offense until a qb you develop is ready or you can pick a veteran to chase a ring. You have to build a good organization to take advantage of that though, and not have an owner who rails some adderall and demands roster moves based on Madden scores.

We did make a huge offer to the Lions: LA made a better one. Now we didn't make the franchise crippling one we did for Bryce, sure, but it's not like the Panthers didn't make a go at him. And I don't think Stafford wanted to come to Carolina and preferred to go to the Super Bowl contender, which fair. The Watson situation was complicated by other factors. I dunno people don't like being fired. You seem to think there's a level of success and financial security you get to where you just say "fug it" and for you and I their salary would obviously be it but that's not how humans process things and lifestyle creep is absolutely a thing.

im responding to a thing you said, on a message board intended for...responses. it was not hostile. learn to...correctly interpret social responses and converse?

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Literally all of us have been in a situation where we don't speak up about something when we know we're right because an idiot boss thinks it's a good idea and it's easier to just go along with what they want to do and hope it works out than slam our head against the wall. That is a universal shared human experience and I don't understand why people are so resistant to the idea in this situation. Just because the stakes are higher for an NFL team doesn't make the office politics just like some bloated corporation rolling out a new product that literally EVERYONE knows is going to flop but some dipshit middle manager is obsessed with. Second point might be fair, but there's something to be said about internal continuity and bringing up someone that has the respect of the building. NFL teams are complicated things. Another more likely explanation is the old Upton Sinclair quote "It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his paycheck depends on him not understanding it."

I don't believe Morgan, or any of the other members of staff with playing experience, wanted anything to do with bryce. I refuse to believe someone who played defense in the NFL at a high lvl looked at Bryce and didn't think "lol. lmao"

what the hell are you talking about