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I'm from Miami so I saw him play quite often, and go to the Johnathan Martin thread in the niners forum if you want to see how inept he was in SF. I don't like the guy cause he's a cheap pick up for the panthers and he's a slight upgrade over another terrible tackle? No I don't like the signing cause he's just plain bad at his job.

I'm pretty sure we are still paying him. And I'm not against him cause he was bullied I'm against him cause he sucks, every time I saw him play he sucked, why would I want someone whose terrible at his position on the team? Incognito is indeed a grade A ahole, but if you go through the text you can see what kind of person Martin really is.

I don't mind the Oher, but I would have never signed Martin. Not only is he as bad as Bell but he's also a cry baby that alienated his teammates. I'm already bracing myself for another bad season by the line. All I know is Cam better not take the fault this time around.

Like I said your replacing dog crap with cat crap, and I understand it cause we have no cap space But please don't start trying to hype these guys up like they are something special, don't tell me to be excited about signings two guys who have played crap the last two seasons.

Lol comparing Oher and Martin to Elway and Plunkett, can you reach any harder? Just cause Plunkett won 2 SB doesn't make him good, Dilfer has a SB why don't you use him as a measuring stick also. Elway was always great, he dragged 3 terrible teams to the SB. If Bell never improved what makes you think Oher and Martin can? do we have some big magical secret that other teams don't?

Laying out a plan? I told it like it is, get your head out of your a** both of them are terrible tackles. If you can't except that might as well not even watch football.

Have you ever that saying you can't teach an old dog new tricks, well Martin and Oher are those old dogs. I've seen Martin since his Miami days, the oline got better the minute he left. Then he goes to SF with his former coach and still is complete garbage not even the gullible niners fans like him, they have a thread dedicated to him and its endless pages of bashing. Oher has been trash for 3 straight season sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade. Tennessee line was garbage and he was there worst starter. Last season towards the end of the season our line did improve but it was marginal at best, what really happened was that the running game got going and we went no huddle. John Lynch (I believe)said it best when are line was forced into passing situations they folded like a cheap lawn chair, this line we have now isn't meant for comebacks or shootouts of any kind.

The PFF guys know as much football as the above average fan, there ratings and grade system makes no sense. Imo this is a we are desperate, have no money, he's cheap, hoping for the best, no reward signing.

First off PFF is an inaccurate website And if he did grade out better than Bell it isn't saying much. Your basically replacing dog s**t with cat s**t. I'm hoping for the best though cause between Oher and Martin Cam is in for another rough season.

With saying "what other options did we have" your basically implying this team really hasn't improved that much. And if we haven't improved why should I be excited for?

what does it matter what I would have done?

Sorry I'm not excited about signing a bunch of castoffs. If our WR corp and o-line did improve, it was marginally at best. As it stands now we are basically the same team as last year offensively speaking.

This is what happens when our best off seasons signing are a 4th string WR, a 5th string WR and an OT that's on his 3rd team in 3 years. slow off-season We need to hit a HR with all of our offensive draft picks this year, cause as it stands right now we are still stuck in the purgatory of mediocre offenses.

He was garbage in Miami, got even worst in SF. Hopefully he never gets a snap. Martin is so bad he isn't even thread worthy

I'm hoping we draft 2 receivers with the first 3 picks now, and if we have to trade up for one so be it.

The only reason I like Philly is cause he has good hands, but the guy isn't even fast, he's more quick than fast, Ginn still has iffy hands also I'm hoping we draft someone in the first round to fill that number 2 void

For the most part are run defense was good considering teams ran the ball on us towards the end of games more than often after already being down by 2 scores. All I know is that the 5th best receiver in this class is better than the best safety, who ever it is. So it won't be considered reaching for a receiver with the first pick. Thiers no need to pick up a maxed out box safety that won't help us get better in a position of need.

Your the one who brought up statistics in first place I'm hoping he's not available, all these Bama DB's peak in college

Going by statistics we shouldn't even draft defense with the first pick

The majority of games we lost was cause we got torched by the pass. That include the playoff game

Why on earth would we need a box safety when our front 7 is good enough to stop the run without any support?

Where did I ever said he was elite? The same team that are going after Crabtree is the same team going after Jennings.

Well here's hoping he's even healthier this season. And I'm sure having Kaepernick as your QB has nothing do with it. Davis and Stevie Johnson both came off terrible seasons, theirs one common denominator among those 3.

Where else am I going to tell him to look? you think theirs complete game tapes of him you can study on youtube? The fact still stands, those "16 plays" are better than any 16 plays Jennings or Cotchery have put together the last 2 seasons.

Crabtree was getting thrown to by Kaepernick. (I should just it end it there) Go look up Crabtree highlights and compare them with Jennings and Cotchery's. If you can't see the difference might as well not respond.