MillionDollarCam

You think he’s the athlete that Watson is? Also Watson is not a good play action QB, on the other hand Corral is. I do see some similarities but quite a few differences as well. Obviously the RPO similarities are there but I don’t necessarily think Corral will be able to get around like Watson does.

I think we all have hope for him. My hope isn’t diminished by the fact that I have concerns. I hope like hell this kid succeeds. I’m tired of August through January being devoid of anything that resembles fun surrounding the game of football.

So this may get hate.. but I actually think Joe Brady could have done well with Corral. We saw what he was trying to do with Darnold but I just don’t think Darnold had the mental makeup to run Brady’s offense… I think Corral maybe could have. McAdoo has had success developing QB’s so I hope they focus on really turning Corral into a pro style QB. He gives you a lot to work with: solid arm, great pocket awareness, very mobile, good footwork. That’s enough to work with. Up to the coaching staff to teach and Corral to learn. What I’m concerned about is Rhule coming out in the future and saying something like… 50% our plays are going to be RPO’s now because we have Corral. I’m not sold on that working at the NFL level for Corral simply because the guys who are doing it well at the NFL level are built different.

I mean all players have some sort of trait in common. There’s very few players who come into the NFL that are so unique that they go above the norms of football. So yes I use my research to relate Corral to other situations in the NFL. Those situations aren’t necessarily flattering for him. It doesn’t damn to the QB cellar though. It’s an opinion, one that I can have. I welcome other opinions.

I know how computers work, you don’t have to hit me with gifs.

I literally just said I’m giving the kid a try… that doesn’t mean I can’t have concerns with his game… you can have concerns with Willis and I can’t have concerns with Corral? Just like if we’d have drafted Willis your concerns wouldn’t disappear… mine don’t just because we drafted Corral.

I don’t hate the kid…. Not to mention me thinking the kid may not work out has no bearing on if he does or not. He’s making millions and we’re sitting here talking about him. I like to talk about football and that’s why I’m here. It has nothing to do with Corral. I hope he does well I just have my concerns. Like others around here, I’m not going to damn the kid to hell because I have concerns about his play.

Define competitive, Cam was competitive last year just not very good.

I usually do but what’s the point if people are going to act like children… play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Why are we here if we are just going to wait to see how he does? Shut down the board and let’s all meet at BofA for a prayer circle if we can’t have disagreements about the team. I can dislike the pick and not hate the kid (which I don’t). I will also pull for him and I hope he succeeds. If he does, I’ll be the first to say I was wrong.

I’m glad whistle sports thinks so… what pick do they have again? I don’t have to go to YouTube to have an opinion. Mahomes, Allen, Herbert arm strength > Corral

This is why I’ve blocked most of the people on this board. Can’t have an actual conversation with someone and do some stupid poo like this. I feel bad for your significant others (if you are blessed to have one) if this is how you behave when having a conversation.

It was one throw… without going through a game… I’d venture 80% of the QB’s in the NFL can throw the ball 70 yards if you give them time to loosen up their arm and tell them to throw the ball as far as they can while not having to worry about the next throw.

Are we really doing this… it was one throw… can you do that after playing a whole game? Not one scout has said that he has elite arm strength. He’s got great arm talent and an elite release. His arm strength is ordinary by NFL standards and simply put the QB’s that are running RPO’s at a high level have better arms (Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert). The one QB who also runs RPO’s a lot who doesn’t have elite arm strength is Tua… we can all see how that situation is going. If you truly think that Corral’s arm strength is on par with Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert then we have nothing to talk about because we won’t see eye to eye.

I think his arm strength is ordinary for the NFL as in not out of place. What I’ve been saying is that all the QB’s that excel in a heavy RPO system have cannons (Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert). If the Panthers don’t coach the kid up and instead tailor the offense to him then I don’t think he’ll have a successful career. The QB’s that are running RPO’s right now are just built different than Corral.

I hope not but if Rhule and co. don’t actually coach the kid up in a pro style offense then I could see it. I don’t think Corral’s future is some RPO wizard. There’s talent there like his ability to throw a solid ball, his mobility, his pocket awareness, and his footwork to learn an NFL system. It’s up to our coaching staff to teach him and up to Corral to learn.

We have drug addicts (Smith - yes I know it was only pot) and woman abusers (Wilson) on the team… Corral’s drinking habit is the least of my concern. It’s not like we are talking about Johnny Manziel or Chad Kelly. I’d rather stick to talking about him as a football player.

You can’t have this opinion, you can only support Lord Rhule and the Panthers in everything and I mean everything that they do.

He’s athletic… he’s very mobile… he has a great pocket awareness… that doesn’t make him an elite athlete though. Its unlikely he’ll run for 50 yards a game, it’s unlikely he will escape sacks like a Mahomes or Allen (he does throw the ball away better than any QB in this class though, it sounds dumb but I’ve seen on multiple occasions when he’s under duress and without looking he knows exactly where his receiver is and manages to throw it in their vicinity out of bounds to avoid a sack). I think his athleticism is on par with Tagovailoa’s. Not elite, slightly above. The issue that I’ve listed multiple times is that the QB’s that run the RPO the most are all very elite athletes and have very elite arm strength. We can’t seriously sit here and say that Corral is on par with Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert when it comes to athleticism and arm talent.

What’s your point… he threw to wide open receivers… and a lot of times the ball was behind them. There is a difference between completing a pass for a first down than completing a better pass for a TD.

OC’s have to give interviews?

I’ve watched him live in person but nice try. Being an excellent athlete at the college level doesn’t make you an elite athlete at the NFL level. Especially when you don’t have the same physical gifts as the other QB’s that excel at RPO plays in the NFL. Then you factor in Corral’s durability and that negates a lot of his athleticism. If you are athletic but you can’t take a hit then it doesn’t really do you a whole lot of good being athletic… at that point you might as well be Carson Strong. Willis is by far the better athlete and even he will struggle transitioning to the NFL game as far as athleticism goes because it’s that much quicker. Corral is mobile but calling him an elite athlete with his size and durability is a disservice to him. If you expect him to do some of the stuff that Cam did for us and that Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert do for their teams then you’ll be waiting a long time.

I think Corral is a solid athlete. Not Mahomes or Allen, slightly behind Herbert but better than Tua. The issue is he isn’t durable (like Tua). And Corral has great ARM TALENT… as in he can make most of the NFL throws and has good touch as a well as an elite release… he does not have ELITE ARM STRENGTH. I watched the Willis and Corral game live in person and I could verify with my own eyes that he had a decent amount of under throws.

They 100% should coach Corral up to the pro game. The questions are… 1) Can this staff coach 2) If they can, can Corral learn I’ve maintained that if they stick with what he’s comfortable with then his ceiling looks like that of Tua Tagovailoa. I just don’t see QB’s without elite arm strength or elite athleticism succeeding in an offense that runs a lot of RPO… Tua is a middling pack QB and the rest of the guys that have a lot of RPO pulls are Mahomes, Herbert, and Allen… I don’t think Corral has any characteristics that match up with those three. He needs to be taught the NFL game and hopefully for our sake he can learn it. I think that if he’s taught a pro style offense then he’ll have a chance. He does some things well: throws a solid ball, has good footwork, good pocket awareness, he’s mobile… I think that’s enough to try and teach him a pro style offense. It’s up to our staff to coach and Corral to learn. If we try to tailor our offense to him then I have a lot of concerns. Lack of arm strength, a minimal read college system, and durability. I just don’t see any QB’s that run a solid amount RPO at the NFL level and do it well having his same limitations.

All of Burrow’s scouting reports list him as very athletic and he definitely showed his ability to move around at LSU. If anything his arm strength was a question coming out but he’s put those concerns to bed. Additionally, Burrow isn’t a system QB so it’s not really the same comparison. I only listed Burrow to show that all the top QB’s are elite in their own right at something whether it’s their athleticism or their arm talent. The real comparisons are the comparisons with the other NFL QB’s who run RPO plays the most… all the successful ones (Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert) are elite athletes and have elite arm talent… and the one who runs it the most (Tagovailoa) is an average athlete (maybe slightly above) with average arm strength.