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Is this one of those stats that Bryce apologists will choose to ignore, but then throw out some deep cherry picked analytical stats that say he is the best deep passer in the league?

I feel like this is a lose-lose situation. We lose, then we "choked" yet again and had 3 times to win the division and failed all of em. On the other hand, we win, and we get Bryce again for another 2+ years and a first place schedule next year. Honestly, this team is going to make the wrong decision regardless, so fug it let's win and see if the stars can align for us and get all the luck in the world in the playoffs. In all honesty though, I've seen enough Panther games in my life to know we ain't winning this one. It's just in our nature to choke a game like this (hell, we've already choked getting into the playoffs two times already).

And that's with an added game 17. Yikes.

Are people still pretending Bryce is an NFL QB? I've honestly just stopped watching games until Bryce isn't our QB anymore. I just can't do it anymore. I'm not ruining every one of my Sundays seeing the same movie over and over. And now there's talks of us extending him? Yeah, I might not be watching much football next year.

There have been quite a few instances this year where there was NO clear evidence to overturn a call, and they did it anyway not in our favor. Whatever happened to indisputable evidence? Anyway, we've been getting hosed by refs for as long as I can remember, notably Peppers bullsh*t running into the kicker penalty. Then the 49ers playoff game, then the superbowl (Cotchery caught that fuggin ball), then the opening night against DEN, etc.

I still can't believe Old Man Rivers after not playing for 5 years at 44 years on a week's notice came in and put up similar numbers to Bryce and almost beat the Seahawks in their house.

The fact people really believe he still isn't fully involved in football operations means his PR team is doing a helluva job.

Because we spent a king's ransom for him to be "the guy". It's like everybody else has to play perfect for Bryce to even have a chance to win. Defense isn't going to get 3+ turnovers every damn game. We STILL held an NFL team to 20 points (league average is 23.1) and only put up 17 points ourselves. Swap QB's yesterday and we win. But again, nobody is solely blaming Bryce for the loss yesterday.

Exactly. Both teams were fairly even across the board, they literally just won the QB battle. Shough kept drives alive with insanely accurate passes in tight windows.

Since we're playing this game, missing an easy TD to Tet if he just put it in front of him. Instead he threw it behind him allowing the defender to catch up and break up the pass (he made an incredible play, but was only possible because Young threw a bad ball). Make that throw and we win. You would expect a 3rd year "franchise" 1st overall pick QB to make that play, because Shough damn sure would have.

This made me lol in real life

I truly believe this team would be 9-5 (maybe even 10-4) right now with a decent QB. I wanna see Canales with his handpicked QB before writing him off. Canales still has room to grow. Ejiro has literally won us games this year with his defensive gameplan with damn near no playmakers besides Brown. So that leaves one person..........get that little ass QB outta Carolina.

The Saints would be 2-12 if not for us. We are 50% of their wins. A organization serious about the playoffs does not get bullied by a sh*t team like the Saints TWICE. It's over my brotha.

Agreed on all points. All I'm saying is that there were throws from Bryce that needed to be made to win this game, and he missed em. Shough made tight window throws all game to extend drives. Bryce didn't play bad at all, he just didn't play good enough to win. But I agree, where tf are the designed deep pass plays? You gotta AT LEAST attempt some throughout the game to keep the defense on their toes. I really don't get it. I don't know if it's a Canales thing or a Bryce changing the playcall thing, but there is no fuggin excuse to not dial it up more times throughout that game. It looked like we had the same gameplan as the first go around. What TF did we do during the BYE? We had two weeks to prepare for a 3-10 Saints team.

That was me earlier this week, and that's why I'm not even mad about this loss. We had our chance, we controlled our own destiny, we had an extra week to prepare, we literally had the division crown handed to us on a silver platter and we choked. We simply aren't ready to be big dogs.

Their QB made more plays than our QB. It really boils down to that. Statistically wise, both teams were fairly even. There just one stat that really stands out: Bryce Young: 15/24 163 yds, 1 TD Tyler Shough: 24/32 272 yds, 1 TD and made some ridiculous throws into tight windows all day That's your game. Yes Canales was a pussy, yes Ejero played soft defense.......but the defense STILL held an NFL team under the league average (which is 23.1). Our "franchise" QB did not make more plays than their rookie QB. Simple as that.

Nothing else needs to be said. You have two weeks to prepare for the 3-10 Saints after getting bullied the first go around. You don't deserve sh*t if you can't even beat em once. This team is simply not ready for the big lights, and I don't think we ever will be unless we get another Cam.

The league average PPG currently is 23.1. We held them to 20 points. Defense absolutely deserves blame for that BS gameplan, but they still held an NFL team under the average PPG, it's up to your "franchise" QB to make some plays to win you the game. Shough was able to do it. 163 yards ain't going to get it done majority of the time.

Funny, Bryce obviously gives himself up and gets whacked, no flag.

It is what it is, no serious playoff contender is losing to the Saints TWICE in one year

We just not ready to be big dogs

This game is fuggin stupid. This ref crew needs to be investigated

How the fug does he come up and moves the ball back an inch? He doesn't even have the fuggin view to make that call

What? No Flag? Surprising

This defense pissin me off today