Martin

I root for him, and I hope for the best, as does essentially everyone. But that doesn’t mean you can’t call out flaws and bad plays. And that’s what a lot of people get wrong. I hope I’m wrong and that he continues to improve a lot, I just doubt it. But I’ve been wrong before

If he’s fired, he might be our new DC. I always liked his defense in the past, a lot more aggressive than what we currently have. What’s everyones take on him as a potential DC for us?

I think everyone can agree that he’s doing better, but it is also ok to say that it’s not nearly enough and we need a different QB for long term success. This nuance seems completely lost on the Bryce hopefuls and is somehow twisted in to hate for Bryce. A lot of us just simple don’t believe he has what it takes.

He gets the blame because his role as the QB is to make plays, help the team score more points and elevate players around him. He does none of that. Just because he didn’t massively mess up doesn’t mean he wasn’t a reason for the loss. The bar some of you have for Bryce is incredibly low.

100% agree, trading him would be the best possible scenario. It allows for a clean start at QB and you get something back.

Agree, we have weapons, but we don’t have a starting quality quarterback. It still baffles me that some people don’t see it.

I’m all aboard on Sonny Styles. Impressive game vs. Indiana and exactly what we need to take our defense to the next level. He should go somewhere around our pick.

I have to disagree with your statement that Bryce has proven he’s capable of playing at a high level. He’s done it maybe 2-3 times out if 30+ games, so they are outliers until he does it a couple of times. And maybe we grade differently, imo the game against the Rams was far from great. I loved the two 4th down conversions, but the rest of the game was meh. Kyle Allen and a lot of other backups have also had a few good games. But that is not enough to prove you belong.

I look at this the same way I look at my golf game. If I can just go from the occasional birdie to consistently make birdies, I can become a pro. But that will never happen. And I view Bryce the same way. A lot of QBs can have a good game or two, but doing it consistently is something they will never be able to do.

Thank you for sharing. I think Ellis is way off. I don’t think he has any inside info, but he’s buying in to the old way of thinking. Bryce is a sunk cost st this point, and Tepper as an investor recognize that. Tepper makes a lot of mistakes, but he also wants to win badly, so I don’t think he has any issues cutting his losses.

Letting Bryce “prove it again” was the best way to eliminate any confusion for people thinking Bryce is the answer after the previous game. It shouldn’t be needed, but for some reason it was. This finally made the media buy in on what most of us already knew. So, while the game was terrible, this is the one strong positive coming out of it.

I think we’ll have a complete reset after this year. We got some good pieces in the draft this year, and next years draft is super strong. I would expect Ball, Miles etc. to be traded during the season. That would allow for us to finally build things the right way.

I would also try to trade Bryce, he needs to be off the roster, would be a distraction if he stayed

I’m also on the Jameis + Howell or Lance and draft a QB to sit at minimum a year. I’m looking at Sellers or the Cincinnati QB Sorsby.

Do we include QBs from College and CFL as well, or is it NFL only?