Mr. Scot

Agree that's odd, but we don't know the details. If he did something minor and then apologized, but did something worse the second time, that's a reasonable story.

Even in criminal cases, nobody says "well if there isn't video, there's no evidence". That'd be an absolutely ridiculous standard for courts to follow. And no, it isn't true in civil cases either. Not should it be.

Sorry dude, but the suggestion that if this doesn't go to criminal court nobody's going to care is completely off the mark. The allegations that have been made here are pretty serious, and the notion that a team in this day and age would just sweep them under the rug is just not credible.

Nothing earth shattering here, just a reason to snicker

The NFL's standard of "proof" is basically believability. If they think it could have happened, they can suspend you for it.

Yeah...it doesn't work that way. Courts don't say "well if there's no video, you can't prove it", not even civil ones.

Oh hell, no. Honestly, if the part about him forcing oral sex turns out to be believable, I don't see how anyone could sign him.

If they find the stuff that's being alleged believable (especially the parts about him forcing a kiss, forcing oral sex and trying to force someone to touch his penis) then I'd say a suspension is likely. Might even be a pretty significant one.

That figure's getting thrown around here some but it's not necessarily accurate. Watson's quote said Buzbee asked for "six figures". I don't remember seeing anything more specific than that. And as mentioned before, that's Watson's word. Don't know if there's any other evidence of it happening (text, or email or anything).

If he's guilty (and I do still consider that an "if") the only thing that I can figure is that as a young, rich, professional athlete he might have believed he was untouchable. Heaven knows young people, and especially young athletes, often think they're invincible. Fame and money don't exactly diminish those feelings.

Massage therapist?

Our friend Ellis chimes in... Not gonna post all of it, but Ellis has a pretty good discussion going through several tweets on the topic. I highly recommend going to his page and checking it out.

Not really. It's still possible. It's just not something that's ever happened before as far as I know.

Understood, but what he's quoting is my question of whether a large group of women has ever come together to perpetrate a fraud against someone. Pretty sure all of the cases against Trump were filed individually.

Sooo...are you saying all the accusations against Trump were made up?

So they made an insane offer, the Seahawks turned them down, but they're still hoping to come up with a trade they'll accept? Yikes!

I would say if I'm the agent for a young NFL player (or any sports league honestly) and I suspect my client has set up private massage sessions, I'd tell them stop that sh-t right now. And if they haven't, tell them to not even think about it.

Number of lawsuits is now apparently seven, no update on the number of accusers. On top of what's already been alleged, the latest suits include charges that Watson exposed himself, kissed women against their will, touched women with his penis and tried to force them to touch him there as well.

As far as actual news, the number of lawsuits filed is somewhere from five to seven now (I've seen different reports). Far as I know, the number of women involved hasn't changed. It's still nine.

There are absolutely examples of women making up allegations to either blackmail or just flat out hurt someone. Are there examples of multiple women from different cities joining together to do something like that? Kinda doubt it. Again though, neither of those things really means much. These cases have to be judged on their individual merits.

Yeah...that's not obvious at all. There was a post (I think in this thread) from a guy talking about what it takes to become a licensed massage therapist. It was pretty good information.

Can't speak for Rum but I don't think it's so much about the social media aspect of it as it is the situations he's putting himself in. Some high profile men won't even allow themselves to be alone with a woman in a closed room, much less fly a woman from Atlanta to Houston to meet in a hotel. For that matter, if you're wanting a massage, why not go to a Massage Envy or something like that rather than meeting people alone in situations like this where rumors are possible? Pandemic considerations? Okay, but that doesn't prevent you from having other people around so that you can establish what happened and what didn't. According to the complaints, Watson asked to clarify that the masseuses would be alone. Again, none of this absolutely says that he's guilty of the accusations. But Rum is right. Better judgment could have kept him out of this situation.

He's speculating... For the moment it's still nine, but yes more coming forward is a possibility.

Diana Russini says the Bears tried to get him to take what she called "a VERY significant pay cut" and he refused. Doesn't sound like he'd have much interest in signing a team friendly deal.

This is encouraging This? Not so much