Mr. Scot

Yeah, the tweet originally had a bonus clip attached but now it just goes to the main video. Not sure what happened.

Nah. It's just camera motion. (went back and rewatched the clip to check it out)

The didn't. The camera moves off the board toward Rhule so it's in motion at the time of the screencap. People have their tinfoil hats wound a little too tightly today.

Team released a bonus clip of Fitterer being given the "Draft game ball".

That's the one I was thinking of, but apparently not her.

In fifty plus years, I've been wrong plenty of times so it's so it's not a big deal. That, plus my relationship status guarantees I'm gonna be told I'm wrong on a regular basis More to the point though, it's just football. Not like we're arguing over something important As for me, I just prefer to make an informed opinion. I'm not trying to be Miss Cleo... or Jim Rome, for that matter.

Longstanding tradition here For my part, I'm hopeful but I have no idea how good (or bad) Darnold is going to be. I do think people acting like the Panthers were basically forced to take him at gunpoint are being kinda silly though Will he work out? Don't know, but the team wanted him and they got him, so here's hoping.

I thought Simms predictions for Fields were kind of silly. Actually figured there was a decent chance someone would trade up and take him before us, but that didn't happen.

Fields as a trade back option doesn't really make sense, especially from a team who thought he could be used as bait for someone else to trade up.

Yep. Likes to be kept informed of the process but doesn't inject himself into it, which is consistent with what we'd heard about him from Rhule and Gantt. And yeah, I'm pretty relieved about that.

Not really. Voth's tweet would seem to indicate it wasn't Fields. Klein generally has good connections and info too.

Would Fields be a reasonable possibility after a trade back though? Given that the team thought that could at least potentially get a trade up offer for him, that doesn't seem logical.

Dude, you sound seriously butthurt over this stuff (yikes!) I've already said if he doesn't work out, I think our next QB comes from the draft.

I'd love to extend Anderson but I'm not expecting it. Very possible the Marshall pick was to backfill for that eventuality.

Makes sense. When Rhule went to the board, he was talking about "guys they love" at 8. The others would fit as fallback options.

Also have to remember that Stafford being available for trade was made known. Darnold's availability was a question mark. Bottom Line: We know they started talking about Darnold early and kept at it till the deal was done, chose to forego two available draftees and now they're building around him. That's not a weak commitment.

There's a big difference between being wrong about what you think might happen and telling a story about something that did.

No, because we didn't get an offer we liked as much as we liked Horn. Not sure what you thought you were getting out of that post. You're starting to sound like Sizzlebuzz.

Some folks would be. When the news of what we offered for Stafford was posted here a few months back, a few folks just about lost their minds.

Did we draft Fields? Person confirmed in a post draft Q&A that the quarterback talk was to fish for offers.

It's your fault

Just like there was "way too much talk" about Justin Fields? There was a whole bunch of rumor that turned out to be nothing, but cling to that if it makes you feel better.

Not quite correct. They didn't discuss terms in the initial contact because the Jets wanted to wait. Had they not, the deal might have happened then. Breer did confirm elsewhere that once the Jets started talking, they suggested a swap of first round picks. The Panthers did balk at that suggestion because at that point, they didn't want to give up the 8th pick. There were other discussions, and other options, but the Panthers ultimately decided Darnold was their best option. So not first, but not last. "Second tier" might be the most accurate description.

This is how I know you didn't read the article.

Stafford was definitely the first option, but the team started talking to the Jets about Darnold right after that deal fell through. Had the Jets not wanted to wait, that deal could have gone through way sooner than it did. So no, not the first option, but also not (as you're trying to characterize) the last resort. Again, you don't think Donald will succeed. I get it. Everybody gets it. But arguing that the Panthers only got him because they "panicked" or "felt they couldn't do any better" ignores the facts of the story.