Mr. Scot

Uuuhhh...you sure about that?

I've mentioned this in a couple of other places.... You've got some people who panic at the first sign of tough times whether it's warranted or not. You've got others who love the attention they get when things are bad more than they actually do cheering for the team. And then there's some who will continuously predict that everything's going to be bad whether it actually is or not, and then when they're right one time in ten years proclaim themselves geniuses. All of these groups include people who love to be able to say "see, I said it first" if things continue to be bad. Said folks will typically disappear if things actually get better, or sometimes come back and claim they were just trolling. Bottom line of course is devotion to ego and being able to say "I told you so". None of these people are ever much fun to discuss football with, but they fit the modern sports talk landscape very well

If you actually think there's more rational reaction than emotional overreaction on the board right now, you must be reading different threats than I am.

There's also a "we don't know what this is yet" camp. (that's where my membership is) I referenced a literary character by the name of Cottard in another thread. It's pretty clear to me we've got a few of those here.

To quote Achmed the Dead Terrorist, I'd kill you for a Klondike bar. Thing is though, I'm just not a "hot take" guy. I've watched out football seasons to know that what you think you know early on often proves very very wrong. That's why I'm cautious.

To be fair, a good number of people went into "full meltdown" mode in preseason.

Emotion is the enemy of logic. And right now, emotion is the rule.

You sure about that? I said before the season ever started that I wasn't gonna be ready to talk about how good or bad we really were until around midseason. That's true any year honestly, but even more true in a year when you're starting with a new staff.

Gun to my head, I get shot.

I was starting to wonder where the "24 hour rule" went

The previously discussed 24-hour rule doesn't really seem to be applying this week.

And yet you keep following me around... Strange behavior for someone who's "not interested"

You sure about that?

I'm not. I genuinely think you are smarter than this. Read what I said to Linville above.

After two games...

So are you saying you know that the other teams have been putting the same workload on those guys as we have Young? If so, what's your evidence?

I think it's dumb to suggest that we know anything at this point, or even that it's trending a certain way. Fitterer was shackled to Rhule for his first two years. Even if you don't factor in the final say thing, he was (like any GM) beholden to get the kind of players that Rhule and his staff wanted. Reich and his people are going to be looking for players that fit their schemes, so there's going to be some turnover. That doesn't necessarily mean the guys they let go were bad. They just might not fit what we want to do. Combine that with the fact that it takes a few years time to really know how good a draftee truly is and you're left with very little to go on. People assume I'm saying that Fitterer is good. I'm not. He could be, or he could not be, but the situation isn't one where we can definitively know much of anything yet. I get that people don't like having to wait to make judgments (especially today) and heaven knows people love to be able to claim they said something first, but that's all pretty silly.

Would likely depend on their depth (which I won't blame to be up on).

I'd agree. Just reading the tone of the conversation around it I actually do at this point think that something gambling related is more likely. Williams' lawyer (who I'll grant is his lawyer) has vehemently stated that there's no criminal activity involved. If that's true, then you have to figure gambling.

Said it elsewhere, but you've got some people who panic at the first sign of things being tough. Others love the drama and attention they get when things are bad, so they jump in early in the hope that they can tell everybody how smart they were if it stays bad later. That kind of bullsh-t doesn't interest me.

And there's zero chance of that improving?

There's no actual evidence...period. There's plenty of panic, whining, unwillingness to look beyond the surface and people trying to position themselves so that they can later claim they were right all along, but none of that counts as "evidence". Again, talk to me down the road when there's way more substantial tape to review. If it's bad then, it's bad. If it's good then, it's good. If (my personal guess) it's not good yet but it's at least better than what we've seen early, then it's progress.

With low expectations...

Not that it's getting discussed much but there is an actual football game this Sunday...