Mr. Scot

Guys who failed to win it in their first job have a decent record. Guys who won it and then tried to get back have all been shut out. Also worth remembering that the circumstances where Payton made the Super Bowl included a bounty system.

Because people have a tendency to think getting a Super Bowl winning coach guarantees winning. It doesn't. Winning a championship is an extremely difficult thing that requires a lot of things come together and go right. Lots of guys try to recreate those winning situations in a new place...and pretty much always fail.

From The 33rd Team... The list (ordered by best fit) 1) Ben Johnson 2) Mike Kafka 3) Shane Steichen 4) Sean Payton 5) Steve Wilks 6) Jim Caldwell 7) Ken Dorsey Ejiro Evero 9) Kellen Moore 10) Frank Reich Kinda surprised to see Reich ranked last. Relevant writeups... 1) Ben Johnson, Lions Offensive Coordinator Ben Johnson is reportedly the frontrunner for the Panthers’ head coaching job, and for good reason. In his first season as a full-time play-caller, Johnson turned Detroit’s offense into a well-oiled machine and nearly helped the team make the playoffs for the first time since 2016. The Lions finished top five in nearly every offensive metric, while Jared Goff posted his best statistical season in years. Johnson consistently found ways to scheme Amon-Ra St. Brown open, and he used Detroit’s excellent run-blocking offensive line to create a dynamic rushing attack. Johnson survived multiple head coaching changes during his stops with the Lions and the Dolphins. That speaks to his ability as a coach, but also to his presence around the office. Clearly, players and other coaches like working with Johnson, and his personable nature will serve him well as a head coach. ... 2) Mike Kafka, Giants Offensive Coordinator No one expected the Giants to make much noise in 2022. But Big Blue won nine games to claim a Wild Card berth, then knocked out the No. 3 seed Vikings in the first round of the postseason. As such, it’s no surprise that New York’s staff members are garnering consideration for head coaching jobs, and that begins with Mike Kafka. First-year Giants head coach Brian Daboll trusted Kafka — who he’d never worked with previously — to call the team’s offensive plays this season. The 35-year-old responded by helping Daniel Jones produce the best campaign of his career despite a lack of talent at receiver and along the offensive line. The Panthers arguably have better players than the Giants at nearly every position except quarterback. Carolina could feel secure with Kafka leading their QB search, and they’d know he’d be able to get the most out of the talent on their roster. ... 3) Shane Steichen, Eagles Offensive Coordinator The Panthers seem likely to hire an offensive-minded coach, and Shane Steichen is next in a long list of offensive coordinators Carolina will meet with. Steichen, Justin Herbert’s coordinator during his Offensive Rookie of the Year campaign, helped build a malleable offense with the Eagles while guiding Jalen Hurts to an MVP-caliber season. Like Johnson and Kafka, Steichen tailors his game plans week-by-week, focusing on exploiting opponents’ weaknesses rather than sticking to one system. However, it’s fair to note that Steichen benefited from coaching far more talent-laden offenses than either the Lions or Giants coordinators. In addition to Hurts, Philadelphia has the NFL’s best offensive line and dynamic players at every skill position. Steichen would have to get used to working with less-than-perfect conditions in Carolina, something he hasn’t necessarily had to do with the Eagles. ... 4) Sean Payton, Former Saints Head Coach Sean Payton is the most accomplished head coach on the 2023 circuit, and nearly every club would be lucky to hire him. With a .631 career winning percentage and a Super Bowl trophy under his belt, Payton is a future Hall of Famer, and it’s no surprise that he’s generated interest from four of the five teams searching for a new head coach. However, whichever team hires Payton will have to work out a trade with the Saints, who still control his contractual rights. That price is reportedly a first-round pick and more, and New Orleans will only grant interview permission to clubs comfortable with that acquisition cost. Given that the Panthers play in the same division as the Saints, New Orleans might mark up Payton’s price even further. At that point, it might not be the best idea for Carolina to sacrifice too much draft capital, especially as they continue to search for a franchise quarterback. Owner David Tepper can afford any salary that Payton asks for, but the draft picks may be a bridge too far. ... 5) Steve Wilks, Panthers Interim Head Coach If the Panthers’ players were running the search, Steve Wilks would have already shed the interim label and become Carolina’s next head coach. Veterans like Shaq Thomspon and Derrick Brown have publicly shown their support for Wilks, who guided the Panthers to a 6-6 record following Rhule’s firing and nearly led the club to the postseason. Wilks is well-respected in the locker room, and he was probably unfairly fired by the Cardinals at his previous head coaching stop. The Panthers kept playing hard even when their season was on life support, and Wilks undoubtedly played a key role in turning around the franchise’s season outlook. ... 10) Frank Reich, Former Colts Head Coach Frank Reich never won the AFC South during his tenure as the Colts’ head coach, but he did post two 10-win seasons. Indy went just 1-7 after firing Reich. It’s clear he wasn’t the problem for the Colts, but he was part of the problem. It’s perhaps telling that the Panthers are the only team that’s expressed serious interest in Reich as a head coaching candidate. It would behoove Reich to spend at least one season as an offensive coordinator and generate new ideas before re-emerging on the 2024 head coaching circuit. ... The rest can be seen at the link.

No coach who's won a Super Bowl with one team has ever won another with a new team. Most don't even get back.

Hoping not. After saying he wouldn't go full of control again and would go with a young guy this time, it'd be pretty disappointing to see him go back on those things. Andy Griffith's advice regarding young men is also true for some NFL owners.

Tony Siragusa was a sideline reporter for a while

XFL or whatever the other league was did it too. Not a fan...

Actually, it's been reported since that Wilson audibleed into that play.

Media types who have actually talked to the coach or been acquainted with him aren't necessarily going to be objective. Hell, some of our local radio guys were still defending Rhule right up till he was fired.

Yeah, I'd be more worried about the defensive side than the offensive side.

Did not call us because It was already established we weren't hiring him...

Interviews with employed coaches or coaches under contract were only allowed to be virtual up to the 17th. Johnson is interviewing in person on Wednesday.

Wilson's season in Denver was a clown take on his career.

Confirmed by both the president of the university and the coach himself... So yeah, we can put this idea to bed.

Yeah...that doesn't actually mean that the job is his if he wants it, or that he wants it.

Sorry, Harbaugh fans.

The talk about his future prospects starts about 25 minutes in. Nothing in it sounds specific to the Panthers. Hell, I'm not even sure we had asked permission to interview him at the time that was filmed. His daughter doesn't mention us when talking about his upcoming interviews.p

Cards pick a GM... (interviewed with us when we hired Fitterer)

Bronco fans would probably like to see Russ playing here too.

I'm not convinced of either of those things.

As far as what would make me quit, it'd have to be something bigger than football. Ricky mentioned the team embracing Deshaun Watson. That's the sort of thing. Being bad at football is one thing. Being bad people is another.