Mr. Scot

Broncos-Ravens looks like a real barn burner

He'd probably be out of football if his development had been left to Rhule's Panther staff.

Could Newton follow in Deion's footsteps...

That pass couldn't have been placed much better.

Man what an amazing touchdown from Hurts to Brown...

Houston is trying really hard to prove that they can suck even more ass. So far they seem to be succeeding

Lawrence back in... Edit: and very nearly picked

Well, he was reported to be involved with the team's social media, soooo...

Mine was worded better

Uuiihhh, no. Not even close. College kids vs grown men...

To be fair (which I admittedly really hate to be with Watson right now) this is his first game back after a long long time off. It's possible he gets better. It's also possible he continues to suck. (and I won't exactly be broken up about it if that's what happens)

And Matt Rhule was successful at building two different college programs. Heck, might be a third if he's successful at Nebraska.

Actually not, personality wise. Remember we had the story about how Rhule's DL guy thought he was going to be fired during his first game as a coach. That's the kind of guy he was. I know some people think that just because a guy is a hard ass, he's going to be a winner. That's no more true than the idea of it just because he was successful somewhere else he'll automatically be successful here.

I wouldn't count on that.

Joe Gibbs was a proven success too. How'd he do in his return? Same question for Jimmy Johnson in Miami, Bill Parcells anywhere after his first Super Bowl and others. The notion that just because somebody had success in one place they're automatically going to succeed elsewhere has been disproven time and time again. Start with that, and then factor in other things. You've gotta look deeper than a guy just being a big name. As to Hackett, Yeah he did nothing like I (or anyone else really) expected him to do. Then he and Paton had themselves to another "proven success" in Russell Wilson. How'd that turn out?

Oh yeah, that's ugly

Jackson officially out in Baltimore...

I didn't see it, but I've heard a couple of people mention it.

Belichick minus Brady isn't exactly doing great. I have no dislike for Harbaugh, but a lot of people who've worked with him have. The problem with him though is that kind of never happy, always angry, constantly screaming persona used to be the norm in the NFL, but just doesn't work anymore. You can still get away with it at the college level, but in the pros what happened with Harbaugh in San Francisco is likely going to happen anywhere else he goes as well. For the record, the coach we just fired at that same kind of personality.

Oy...

Did Watson just let loose an Aaron Brooks special?

But hadn't even beaten Ohio State till the past few years. Point of the discussion there though was our increasingly angry sounding friend's suggestion that the 49ers were doing lousy since Harbaugh. Objectively speaking, they're actually doing pretty well right now.

Game of the day so far looks to be Commanders-Giants, though Eagles-Titans is looking pretty good too.

I wondered whether anybody on here might have family in that area. And yeah, it sounds nuts.

Well, the "batsh-t" folks made it back to the Super Bowl. They didn't win, but then neither did Harbaugh when he went. Michigan is still waiting on that National Championship game.