Mr. Scot

Ryan worked under McAdoo in New York.

Never worked with Wilks

Suppose current OC Ben McAdoo continues to not be able to cut the mustard? Where could interim head coach Steve Wilks turn for help? Obviously, you can't install a new offensive system in the middle of the season. That would leave Wilks searching for an on-staff replacement, with quarterback coach Sean Ryan likely being the only viable option. But if Wilks we're to, say, reach out to someone who could come on board as a consultant to maybe call plays or assist in some other fashion, who would some of the options be? Looking back at his history, the following names present themselves... Norv Turner, Retired, Former Panthers OC Turner and Wilks have worked together twice, first in San Diego then with Carolina. Norv would be readily available (as long as his wife agrees). Jim Skipper, Retired, Former Panthers RB Coach Skipper and Wilks we're on the Panthers staff together for a bit and he's been an OC before. Freddie Kitchens, Senior Analyst, University of South Carolina Kitchens has a consultant type role already at the college level. He and Wilkes were together in Cleveland along with OL Coach James Campen. Rob Chudzinski, Special Assistant to the Head Coach, Boston College Another current college consultant, and an acquaintance of Wilks from their Charger days. Todd Haley, Head Coach, Tampa Bay Bandits (USFL) Haley was let go from the Browns and replaced with Kitchens. He's technically got a full-time job but this is his offseason. ________________________ Not a great best, but not a terrible one either. Mind you, there are other potentially better options but most of them are currently employed elsewhere in the NFL. Can't say I really expect anything like this to happen, but there are options at least.

It was actually a very fair article.

Rhule got a fair shot, especially given he had full control. If you can find someone suggesting otherwise, link em.

While we're at it, here are some potentially available assistants from staffs whose coaches are or may be on the hot seat. Frank Reich, OC or QB Coach Pep Hamilton, QB Coach Ken Zampese, QB Coach Ben McDaniels, WR Coach Juan Castillo, OL Coach Hal Hunter, OL Coach John Matsko, OL Coach Sean Kugler, OL Coach Kevin Mawae, OL Coach Jack Del Rio, DC Gus Bradley, DC Jeff Zgonina, DL Coach Matt Burke, DL Coach Richard Smith, LB Coach Billy Davis, LB Coach Vance Joseph, DB Coach Chris Harris, DB Coach Mike Mitchell, DB Coach Bubba Ventrone, ST Coach Jeff Rodgers, ST Coach

Throw in that top ten draft picks should all have to earn their jobs

Thinking you can treat people badly and still get the best people to come work for you is even dumber. Take a look at our OC candidates (including the one we ultimately hired) if you think quality people are busting down the doors to join this organization.

That's way too "all or nothing" an approach. As far as Morgan and Fitterer, look at their history. Just saying "friends" doesn't really cover it. But lemme just ask you personally, would you screw over a close friend of both you and your family (one who also helped you get where you are) for a job? If it was someone they loved, how would your family feel about it? Throw in also though that Morgan has already seen what it's like working for Tepper. All the bullsh-t and dysfunction were reading about, he's seen that and more up close and personal. Knowing how people around the league view Tepper through a negative lens, what makes you certain Morgan wants more of that at a close family friend's expense?

Pretty sure no team has ever forced a sitting coach or GM to interview for their own job. Also pretty sure that if we did, we'd quickly be even more of a laughingstock than we are already.

I get that, and I get the fan love for players who come back. I just think people have to be more realistic about it.

Correct on it being his second year as a DC, but still only his sixth year overall. That just isn't enough experience for me. To be honest, I prefer guys that have even more experience than what you see among the top candidates now. But that's the way the league is going...

It doesn't matter who did what. Fitterer had a GM job but didn't have the power. He was also tied to a head coach that he didn't choose. Do you really think other GM candidates are going to look at him being fired under their circumstances and just say 'oh yeah, that's fair"? As far as Morgan, like I said, he's not working for the Panthers. He's working for David Tepper. If you think he's sentimentally attached to the Panthers organization, then why did he interview for the Steelers GM job?

Basically because he played for the Panthers and was good. I'd honestly say anybody thinking they can just replace Fitterer with Morgan is probably dreaming. Morgan and Fitterer aren't just close friends, their families are friends too. They've actually vacationed together, so you're not just talking about Morgan agreeing to the job. His wife and kids would have to sign off as well. Add to that that Morgan considers Fitterer his mentor and the reason he is where he is now. Doesn't stop there though. You're also asking Morgan to work for the boss who not only fired his good friend, but did so unfairly. Does he then just say "Oh he wouldn't do that to me"? I wouldn't bet on that, especially given that more than has been in a position to see all the dysfunction that's gone on behind the scenes. Part of the problem why folks are a little unrealistic about this is that they see it as Dan Morgan working for the Panthers. It's not it's Dan Morgan working for David Tepper. And once David Tepper becomes the guy who fired his good friend, and did so unfairly, it doesn't become such an appealing job. Especially given that both Morgan and Fitterer could probably find jobs elsewhere without too much trouble. I get the fan appeal of wanting the star player to come back and be a coach/ executive / whatever, but these are real people, not Madden characters.

That's a big concern for me. Tepper is already in the conversation for worst owner in the league when it comes to both results (horrible win-loss record) and intelligence (the sheer stupidity of what he gave Rhule) About the only positive he might still have to offer would be making the Panthers a great place to work, but it sounds like that might already be out the window too. I really don't want to see us become the kind of long-term laughingstock we've seen some other teams be, but I fear we're headed in that direction if things don't change.

It might be waiting a while.

Twenty plus years of scouting experience doesn't qualify someone to be a GM? Dan Morgan's only got half of that, and he signed on to the same situation as Fitterer. In order for your argument to stay consistent, you would have to also judge that Dan Morgan isn't qualified for a GM job either. Are you willing to make that statement?

That's probably about the only scenario where I could see it making sense.

The actual NFL team that interviewed him a few months ago disagreed.

Jeff Howe has a few more league connections than any podcast...

Off the top of my head, the Rooneys, the Maras, Tisch...hell, if you weren't a hot chick, people loved working for Jerry Richardson. (I'm sure there's others I'm forgetting)

Dude, he couldn't even beat Ohio State until last year. Ask the Vikings what they think of h

Nah. Lady Cowboy Fan makes sure that doesn't happen

Actually, my argument says that it's pretty dumb to fire him when he didn't have full power, especially given the perception that would create for an owner who's already got a negative reputation. Outside of what Person confirmed on the quarterback side, I haven't made any statement about how much blame goes where.

Boy is that last line ironic Let's just say it's going to be a while before too many people are going to take you seriously, and if you've seen some of your recent call outs you know I'm not the only person saying that.