Mr. Scot

Yes, he has. He can't grasp the pro game. It was never gonna happen.

And it ain't like he doesn't have talent and measurables. He has both. He just seems to be wasting them

Good work... Mentioned above, my current lean is toward Bryce being the problem. And it takes me back to the issues we had when Mike Shula was OC. He had on something for the 2015 season (basically heavy run focus including the QB) which is great, but simply coming up with something that works isn't enough in the NFL chess game. If you're truly a chessmaster, you know what to do when somebody finds a way to stop it. Hell, some guys even anticipate those adjustments and plan for them. Shula had no idea how to respond. Last game, Bryce didn't either. So now the big question is what happens next game

Good grief, no

Not at all. The ideal type of QB for the WCO could be described as a... ... point guard Argument basically boils down to saying that the problem is not with system fit. It's either play calling or execution, and the more I think about it the more I lean toward the latter.

Thielen would be my guess.

If you're not giving it your all In your current situation, why should I trust you to give your best efforts in a different one?

That's the thing... He's still living off his college reputation because his NFL rep isn't anything special.

Maybe for one game. I've seen this movie. It doesn't end with us winning.

Feels like at least three players have said something like this, might even be more who think it but haven't said so. It'd be a really big deal to know who they're talking about.

That crossed my mind, too...

No, but some have. Mind you, we have a few who will likely still be talking about bringing him back when he's over fifty

Ranks aren't a big deal to me (like when we were supposedly the second best defense in the league under Phil Snow). My eyes tell me the same story, though. Bryce looked better passing last year than he does now. The question is why...

No one said he was great. Better? Definitely, which is where the question begins.

Unknown what Morgan's full opinion of Young is, but given the investment we have in him and his performance through the end of last season, trying to get whatever they can out of him is reasonable. As far as differences, Fitterer was reported to have more trust in analytics data than Morgan does. Morgan prefers old school eyes on game film scouting.

Jones is a WCO type QB (same as Bryce) but with better measurables.

Even the worst quarterback in the league wouldn't excuse a lack of effort. You can't blame all of Legette's issues on Bryce, especially not when you see McMillan thriving.

Yep, and frustrating as hell to watch

There's a lot I don't understand about that. For one, the kind of attack the Saints threw at us was what I've been expecting all year. Why did it take till now to see it? But of course, the bigger issue is why Canales didn't seem to have any sort of backup plan in case something like this happened.

That'd be my guess

Weird thing though is if you were running a typical WCO (for which Bryce is built) you could get away with a low moderate amount of downfield passing and still be effective with other types of throws which Bryce does well. Didn't see that stuff last game...

We saw him do it last year... Hell, we've seen him do it this year, though not as much... (and not at all last Sunday) It's extremely confusing.

Still didn't look right last week... I know, at least when healthy, we have a line that's much better suited to run blocking than pass blocking (wouldn't picture this crew in a typical WCO) but it sure didn't look like Canales was ready for a defensive approach that most of us have seen coming for weeks

Injuries on the OL would be a likely factor (Hunt is sorely missed). They've been decent for the most part (especially on the left) but last game everything broke down.

Don't really follow analytics much, but I know what I see. I would agree, regardless of rankings, that we had a better passing game last year than we do this year. But if we're not even making the attempt now, is it Bryce, playcalling or something else?