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Yep, and had to convince a control obsessed Rodgers to embrace some new concepts in his system. As one article put it, everywhere he goes, offensive improvement follows

That may not be so farfetched. From Tom Pelissero... Tension boiling over between Meyer, players, staff Months of tension surrounding Jaguars coach Urban Meyer has boiled over with multiple run-ins with players and other coaches in recent weeks, sources say, renewing questions in league circles about whether Meyer's stay in Jacksonville could end after just one tumultuous season. At this point, there are no signs that Jaguars owner Shad Khan is seriously considering a change. One of the NFL's most patient and supportive owners, Khan dreamed for years of Meyer -- a three-time college national champion at Florida and Ohio State -- coaching his team and overhauling the culture of a franchise accustomed to losing, before finally luring him out of retirement in January. (A spokesman for Khan declined comment for this story.) But sources say Meyer's repeated public comments shifting blame to players and coaches amid the team's 2-10 season have exacerbated frustration in the building with his hard-charging and sometimes condescending approach -- a style that many observers believed wouldn't work in the NFL even before the Jaguars hired him. ... In the past two weeks alone, sources say: Receiver Marvin Jones -- one of the locker room's most respected and mild-mannered veterans -- became so angry with Meyer's public and private criticism of the receiver group that he left the facility until other staff members convinced him to come back and had a heated argument with Meyer during practice. During a staff meeting, Meyer delivered a biting message that he's a winner and his assistant coaches are losers, according to several people informed of the contents of the meeting, challenging each coach individually to explain when they've ever won and forcing them to defend their résumés. Contrary to his public statements that it was injury-related, Meyer ordered Robinson's benching after an opening-drive fumble in last week's 37-7 road loss to the Rams, then had running backs coach Bernie Parmalee stop Robinson from re-entering the game, insisting Carlos Hyde (who played for Meyer at Ohio State) stay in. Only after Lawrence questioned Meyer on the sideline about Robinson's absence was Robinson allowed to return late in the second quarter. (Speaking to reporters this week, Lawrence said: "Bottom line is James is one of our best players and he's got to be on the field and we addressed it, and I feel like we're in a good spot and the whole team, we're good.") Several Jaguars players vented their frustration to Rams players after that game, sources say, reiterating a common complaint that Meyer -- who had no prior NFL experience -- doesn't treat them like adults. And the staff meeting follows a pattern of tense interactions between Meyer and his assistants dating back to the offseason. After opening the preseason with consecutive losses, for instance, sources say Meyer informed assistants that he was sick of being embarrassed and if the team didn't start winning immediately, some of them wouldn't be around for a second year. ... Holy hell, this sounds like an absolute sh-t show

One thing that should probably be distinguished here: There's a difference between search firms and individual consultants. Guys like Accorsi, Dungy and Ron Wolf are individuals with individual connections. Search firms aren't necessarily tied to particular coaches. Heck, the Texans used a firm in their GM search that actually have them some good recommendations. Unfortunately for them, Cal McNair tossed those aside and hired the guy Jack Easterby wanted.

Haven't heard other names, but I do know recent years' improvements in the organization have been credited to the rise of Jones'son Stephen. Unlike his dad, Stephen actually seems to have a brain cell or two. I know previously, after years of sh-t shows like Chan Gailey and Dave Campo, people convinced Jones to go with a football guru in Bill Parcells. But when Parcells failed to deliver a championship, Jones felt emboldened that "his way" was just as good. Luckily for Cowboy fans like my significant other, there's Stephen.

For the curious, here's TSN's writeup on Rhule... Rhule signed a seven-year deal prior to the start of the 2020 season, seemingly giving him ample time to turn Carolina's fortunes around. However, his relationship (and subsequent firing) of Joe Brady and the Panthers' middling results since the start of the season may make that contract meaningless. Carolina's QB carousel has doomed the Panthers just as much as the coaching has, but Rhule has been generally uninspiring since taking the the job last year, coming from the college ranks. His firing of Brady could either be viewed simply as a philosophical difference in how the offense should have been run or a scapegoat to hide from Rhule's lack of grasp on a 2021 NFL offense. Heralded as a program builder, Rhule hasn't built much of anything yet in Carolina, despite having a very talented defense and some pieces to work with on the offensive side of the ball. While his gaudy contract says he'll probably get at least another year to figure things out, money is no object to Carolina owner David Tepper, who could choose to go for another, bigger higher this upcoming offseason to get these win-now Panthers, well, winning now.

Latest "hot seat" article from The Sporting News (link) breaks it down thusly... Warming Up... Joe Judge, Giants Pete Carroll, Seahawks Urban Meyer, Jaguars Gettin'Hotter... Vic Fangio, Broncos Matt Rhule, Panthers On Fire... Mike Zimmer, Vikings Matt Nagy, Bears

I've looked at some of his associations. Here are a few of the options. For offensive coordinator... Packers QB Coach Luke Getsy - considered a young coach on the rise, one article said he's "bound to get a coordinator job soon" Raiders OC Greg Olson - longtime West Coast OC with a solid rep, worked with Hackett in Jacksonville Jaguars OC Brian Schottenheimer - if the Jags staff is let go, former associate of Hackett's dad Paul via his dad Marty On the defensive side... Packers DB Coach Jerry Gray - veteran DC with a good resumé Raiders DC Gus Bradley - worked with Hackett in Jacksonville and Fitterer in Seattle Titans Senior Defensive Assistant Jim Schwartz - one of the top defensive minds in the league, worked with Hackett back in Buffalo (my top choice) Former Packers DC Mike Pettine - previous Packers colleague, has been a good DC but was fired in Green Bay Bills LB Coach Bob Babich - was DC with Hackett in Jacksonville, long and solid resumé going back to being Ron Rivera's successor in Chicago Wade Phillips - needs no introduction, worked with Hackett's dad, wants to be a DC again but up there in years Lotta good position coach possibilities too...

That's my fear.

Ten games over 500? I'm impressed

You should probably make note of the difference between Jerry Jones with Jimmy Johnson and no salary cap versus Jerry Jones without Jimmy Johnson and a salary cap in place. There's a massive difference.

Which is where the self-awareness comes in... Dan Snyder will continue to make football decisions for Washington. He'll also continue to deny that it's his fault they suck. Likewise, David Tepper can continue to make decisions for the Panthers if he wants to, but if he's smart he'll let someone who knows what they're doing decide for him because he hasn't got a clue what he's doing.

I don't question Tepper's balls. It's his brains I doubt.

Should probably mention we're getting away from the point here... The heart of the topic is competence and self-awareness. From what we've seen so far, David Tepper doesn't have the first. Whether he has the second remains to be seen. Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder are examples of owners who make terrible football decisions but lack the self awareness to understand that. Jeffrey Lurie and Cal McNair are examples of guy who trust the wrong people, but don't see it that way. David Tepper? He definitely fell into the second category with both Marty Hurney and Matt Rhule. He could also still be classified as type one as well. Again, remains to be seen. What we're hoping for is that 1) he gives the next coaching search over to someone else and 2) it's someone smart enough to do it right. I'm honestly not optimistic, but here's hoping...

Ed Bouchette and numerous other sources at the time confirmed Colbert ran the search. Mind you, that's not to say the Rooneys had no part of the process (and I haven't said they didn't). What I've pointed out was they had their own guy running it, and he was trusted to do so, rather than going with an outside consultant. Now granted, Colbert had been a long tenured and successful GM at the time of their coaching search. Fitterer has only been GM for a year.

That varies by team. Either way, as always I'm gonna take reporting from legitimate sources more seriously than fan speculation.

Yeah, I could definitely hear that in her voice.

Have heard the song but didn't know the title or artist. Wasn't there a female singer who sang this too?

Can't dispute that, sadly.

He did. Can't say I'm familiar with that one.

You have a very different definition of "fun" than I do.

"Danger Zone" alone is reason to include Loggins, but there's also "I'm All Right".

Kenny Anderson... Kenny Stabler... Ken Griffey Jr... Kenny Rogers... Kenny Loggins... And oh yeah, Sister Elizabeth Kenny was kind of a big deal.

Mentioned it elsewhere, but thanks to an NFL rule change made earlier this year, any team that fires a coach midseason can start interviewing prospects for their next head coach two weeks before the season ends. Tepper fired both Rivera and Hurney in season, so if he is ready to move on from Rhule it'd be no surprise to see it happen before the year is over. Granted, that's a huge "if"...

FYI: The league made a rule change this year stating that teams who fire their coaches in season can start doing interviews two weeks before the season ends. This may affect some teams' decisions.

Saw that. Horrible news.