Mr. Scot

That's been my take, despite certain people's suggestion that I'm just looking for a way to keep Scott Fitterer around Casillas theory might work if the new GM and head coach are promised higher authority and independence, something which I honestly think needs to be promised regardless of what happens to Fitterer.

I'd love Hortiz. My favorite candidates are Hortiz, Cowboys personnel chief Will McClay and Eagles / former Steelers personnel guy Brandon Hunt. The idea of Ray Agnew is growing on me but that scenario might depend on getting Ben Johnson.

Returning to the actual topic, a quick summary... Amid speculation that, having promoted John Lynch to "President of Football Operations", the 49ers could easily give Adam Peters the GM title where he'd continue to be in charge of personnel. Peters was declining interview opportunities with other teams last year, so his departing San Francisco seems highly unlikely. Lions Assistant GM Ray Agnew has an obvious connection to Ben Johnson, but also is connected to current Panthers DC Ejiro Evero and OC Thomas Brown. A lot of people like the idea of a Johnson / Evero pairing. This could potentially make that easier. Other potential candidates include Bears Assistant GM Ian Cunningham (who interviewed for the Assistant GM job here before Dan Morgan was hired) and Ravens Director of Player Personnel, Joe Hortiz (who I'd love to get).

That's Johnson / Agnew, a combination which becomes more intriguing with the notation that Agnew has connections with Ejiro Evero and Thomas Brown. Hortiz / McDonald would be another one, but that would require Tepper hiring a defensive coach, something not many people see happening.

After two games? At the time, there wasn't any indication of such a thing. It didn't manifest till later. And by that time, Casillas had moved on to a different forum (which is where the current discussions are happening).

"Word play", eh? Funny thing... Guess I called it

Yeeeeah...there's not actually anything in that post (dated back in September) that supports your argument. Not surprising, though... And the conversation with Casillas on this topic didn't happen on the Huddle.

Understood.

I'll look for it. He's a name I've seen mentioned here a lot but never recall him actually being contacted.

The idea was never that Fitterer would stay as a GM co-GM. It was that he'd take an alternate position away from the personnel duties. The fact that you couldn't comprehend that is where the issues started. Apparently, Fitterer's name makes you emotional

Borgonzi interviewed? I don't remember seeing that. I know Tilis did but I thought it was only once.

Or you're a guy who takes credit for stuff other people say, while also reframing arguments of those you debate so that they appear to say what they actually didn't, which I've seen some evidence of. Of course, the next part of your MO is to accuse people of things what you actually do, which I'm guessing probably comes next.

As mentioned, there's way more to the GM job than just personnel and scouting. What Casillas suggested could happen would do two things... 1) Remove Fitterer from all personnel decisions 2) Free up a new GM to concentrate on personnel without having to worry about the other stuff That doesn't necessarily sound like a bad idea to me, but you still have to deal with Fitterer being involved in the chicanery that helped get Frank Reich fired. That, to me, is the tricky part.

Wasn't there previously a sticky post where the mods said they were going to crack down on people sh-tting up threads rather than sticking to the actual topic? Has that emphasis gone by the wayside now?

The only thing I've ever truly seen you argue for is the idea that you know things. Unfortunately, that argument falls apart when you actually talk about them Now, do you want to actually look at any of the candidates mentioned here or just continue your usual MO of useless b-tching?

As mentioned, Casillas has two sources, which is two more than you do He's known other things before they happened, so I trust his information.

What's funny is there's a real "silver lining" type opportunity available here. If he wanted to be smart about it, Tepper could take this as a chance to come out and say "Look, this made me realize just how bad I've handled things and I now understand that I need to step away from the football operations and let the qualified people handle it." I don't necessarily have any indication that will happen, but the opportunity is there.

But hey, ummm,about those candidates...

The insider in this case would be our buddy Casillas. He has a couple of contacts that work within the organization and he's been able to get info on things before. His bringing this up makes me think it may be a real possibility. Lord it's just useless to talk to you As mentioned, it wasn't my idea nor my suggestion. It was a theory by Casillas regarding what might happen this offseason.

The article doesn't mention Borgonzi but does talk about Brandt Tilis, and it's worth noting that he interviewed with us the last time. Mind you, the emphasis for this article is mostly on underrated candidates, the people who aren't getting talked about as much.

Perhaps at personnel decisions, but per insiders he's done a good job at the other parts of running the team offices and such and is very well liked throughout the building. So given that knowledge, what would be the problem with committing him to those things, which also then leaves the next GM able to concentrate on personnel matters only?

I wouldn't say nobody wants to talk about that. Just a certain triggered few... That people object to the idea of him staying with the team in a non-personnel role just tells me their opinions are more emotional than logical.

Are we? I've only seen two or three people actually talk about that in this thread. There's been hardly any mention of the candidates listed. First response was about Fitterer and numerous other posts have stuck to that topic rather than actually talking about anything in the OP.

I wish...but no.

"Real GM duties" encompasses way more than just personnel decisions. There are dozens of other things involved across every department on the team. That's pretty standard for every team in the league. The idea would be to remove him from personnel decisions but keep him running other areas where he's reported to be doing a good job. As mentioned, that's what a lot of us used to wish would happen with Marty. It's also worth noting that it's a similar arrangement to what they have out in San Francisco. Adam Peters is in charge of anything personnel related while John Lynch handles everything else. As far as I know, we'd be the only other team with that sort of dynamic.