kungfoodude

There have been multiple people over the years talk about long term franchise dysfunction being ownership driven. Tepper and the Bobnets gave us perfect examples of this in our backyard. No need to even search out examples. I do think generally Bryce will just end up proving this was just a bridge too far in his football career. He just isn't physically skilled enough to make it in the NFL.

IDK if we will see teams to be as desperate to trade up like that to get a QB. TBD. The early FO/scout quotes seem to indicate that there isn't a ton of excitement about those QB's. It does only take one Tepper-like doofus to make that decision, though.

Did you not even read your own post?

On what planet to you envision Higgins wanting any part of this poo without getting #1 overall money at the position?

I will keep pointing out that #1 overall may be one of the toughest races in recent memory.

At first: As time went on: Currently:

The issue is that he basically has quit on the team. So this is basically the end. Also, we are terrible with compensatory picks, so I really do not expect that to change.

It's equal parts Bryce being bad and us being a terrible spot for any young QB. I generally think Stroud would not be as hyped had he started here. Perhaps this season that would have changed but I do believe even he would have limited success in 2023 here.

I also hope I am wrong but I do not believe I will be.

I do indeed. I made this prediction last season, BTW. I genuinely believe that is how dysfunctional Tepper is.

That is my take, just get an elite player. IDGAF about position. We have no position that is off the table.

I don't think this is us making a shrewd move. I think it's us figuring out that this poo is over. He doesn't want to be here. At all.

I honestly think this was obvious after Sunday. It's just basically official now

I firmly believe we will not see a winning record before 2030. I am on record for that and have been trying to get various sportsbooks to give me odds on a five figure bet.

It has already been reported he does not want to stay, he visibly quit on the field Sunday and his comments after the game shows that he is going to roll over on his teammates. Get rid of him. It's a bad enough scenario without any locker room drama.

What fantasy land are you living in where this is an option?

Well, I think maybe start with even making the playoffs, first.

The Hornets are now out from under MJ, so the turnaround there is finally possible for the first time.

There are multitudes of bust QB's that get 2nd chances. I don't think Bryce will be any different

I think it only takes a couple of favorable eyes to make the difference.

I am not very bullish on the prospects of this turning around.

I would normally agree but a dude that is legit checked out isn't helping, he is hurting. The comp pick wouldn't be much anyway. Just move him and move on

This is the worst thing possible for Young trade value.

The Browns were this for a very long time. That is us now.

Oh, I have no idea about AT. If he said anything, I am unaware of it. TBH, he is here on a free agency deal so I very much doubt he has the same perspective. He doesn't seem to be a "win first" guy that is chasing a ring. If he were, he would not be here. If we can get some compensation for him and he isn't down to stick around, that is fine by me. I just don't think he actually has much value at all