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Maybe “gave up” is the wrong term. But he cost us two firsts (and then some) because that is what we spent to get him. In the same way I would say we spent a 1st on Freeling. We didn’t trade anything to get him but we we didn’t get him for free. We still spent a pick.

Didn't see this posted (since 2023) but since folks have been posting that you can't judge a draft class for three years (a ridiculous take), I thought I'd post this to see what people thought about the 2023 draft. Unfortunately this may not be the most interesting class to do this with but I do quite like retrospective draft grades. Would appreciate other's takes on this (and other recent) draft classes. 1(1) - Bryce Young QB: I am a bigger Bryce Young apologist than most (maybe all). I like the kid. But there is no way around it: This was a terrible pick. If he had been picked in the 4th or even the 3rd round I would feel pretty good about it. But this was the first overall pick that we gave up two firsts, our best offensive player to get. GRADE: C - 2(39) - Jonathan Mingo WR: not much to say here here. He was here for two years. His yards per catch are on par with Bryce's yards per pass. Rough stuff. To date he has still never scored a touchdown in the NFL GRADE: F 3(80) - DJ Johnson OLB: a pick I hated as soon as it happened and an example of why the premise of this thread is honestly dumb. This was a bad pick when it happened. Most people knew it. Then came training camp and he did not look good. Then came the preseason which confirmed what we saw in TC. Then came the season which confirmed what we saw in preseason. To date, he has half a sack in his career. GRADE: F 4 (114) Chandlers Zavala G: Honestly the best pick of this draft which really speaks to how awful this draft is. Other than Bryce, the only pick still on the team. He is mostly average or below average depth which in round 4 is not terrible. But he had a pff score of 43.5 and though I think people have unrealistic expectations for draft picks, I still would want a little more from a fourth round pick GRADE: C+ 5 (145) - Jammie Robinson S: I liked the pick when it happened but ended up being a disappointment. He logged 1 tackle with the falcons last year and not enough snaps to get a grade on PFF. GRADE: F OVERALL DRAFT GRADE: F

He s only 31?!? Dang I feel like he was 28 for half my adulthood. Also, why didn’t we kick the tires on him to backup Bryce?

Been here since middle school right when it started around 2003 after the charlotte.com one. Living outside of Carolina it was tough to find good Panthers content, news or analysis. And no one to talk to about it. This place gave me a lot though I don’t often post. In the later days, I particularly Loved PhillyB’s write ups. They were fire. Too bad I go let it go. I appreciate the hell out of @MHS831 @TheSpecialJuan @Jackie Lee and others who have been posting great content and keeping this place worth coming back to. Particularly during the offseason. Appreciate y’all!

Reading this really makes it hit home: Mel Kiper is kinda a dope.

I can’t decide if this is great insightful content or if this is just a kid about to leave college trying to expand his professional network.

Outstanding write up. As always. Thanks @MHS831!

Incorrect. But thanks for sharing! I always appreciate your updates!

thought about him, but he was a trade not an FA

I honestly love it. Even if it weren't the falcons I would love it. I'm glad he is saying what I am sure a lot of athletes think when they leave a team. The fact that it is the falcons just makes it better.

I agree it is very exciting! Tough to imagine them being more impactful than Jake Delhomme, Stephen Davis, and Ricky Proehl but I hope they are!!

f ‘em. I mean I feel sorry for the people he hurt. And sad that he is clearly a deeply troubled and unhealthy young man. But f the falcons. They knew all this about him and hired him anyways.

thank you OP. You are doing the Lord's Work right here. Outstanding write up.

LB depth Incoom-ing!!