kungfoodude

The copium being mainlined by our fanbase is sometimes a nearly fatal dose. Even known dipshit Mel Kiper could probably run this team better.

Yeah, this is called selective memory. Go back and look at the draft threads over the past decade. It's about 95% better decisions than our FO. But, by all means, continue to be cucked by poor decision makers. It's clearly working so well for us.

Mock drafts are generally pretty bad at the moment. They start getting better post-combine.

Depends on who else is available too but I would love to snag him for sure.

Graham is not actually a consensus top 10 guy.

It might actually be harder to fail as badly as they have than it is to be simply mediocre.

Did you not read the "Huddle consensus" part of this theory? That's the point. Huddle consenus has been DRAMATICALLY better than the actual Panthers Front Office for years now. Think about that.

Fitterer put the Hurney vs. Gettleman discussion so far in the rear view that argument should never come up again. Fitterer was steadily climbing to a Matt Millen level of suckitude.

You are thinking we would run this like Tepper's boys do.

It would be less of a mess than this organization has fielded under Tepper.

There aren't a lot of quality backup QB's available and none at this price. The QB FA market is a bunch of nothings and guys that will be getting paid for than Bryce. What we need is someone like Dalton that can be a decent backup QB and also a good mentor for Bryce. I saw someone mention Fields. I couldn't possibly think of many worse options. Not as cheap(probably) and one of the worst #2 QB's in the NFL, outside doing a good Taysom Hill impression.

Yeah, good luck with that.

The thing that makes me nervous about him is he seems to have invested very heavily into this online/media redneck persona versus seeing work. Now, that is obviously a perception versus reality thing but remember how impressed all of us were at the kind of workouts that Horn was doing in his first couple of seasons. He seemed to really, really pine for greatness and be a sponge for information. Now, could you possibly attribute some of his injuries to working out too much(see McCaffery, Christian)? Maybe. I am worried, and maybe unfairly so, that the bulk of the output we see for XL is somewhere between brand building and goofing off. Hence why I am worried maybe he just isn't putting in the work. TBH, his college career has ample evidence for this theory. We will see how it all shakes out. If we don't see much improvement over 2025, I think I will have all I need to make my judgement on the direction.

I would add that for OL and DL, TBH.

Yeah, and those are great but you have to hit on your drafted players ultimately. The hit in the UDFA ranks are just such a small pool that you are basically always chasing outlier statistics to attempt to win. That just isn't a successful model.

Ewers may very well end up as a Day 3 guy. Dart was okay at the Senior Bowl and Milroe was bad. This is the weakest QB draft since 2022.

Yeah, it is very possible the next QB taken after Ward/Sanders is the 3rd round.

Lol. I mean, I don't think we have a choice on the time given. I just saw nothing that made me think this is headed for success. We will see. He needs to really come out and show some very improved hands.

It's infuriating. A bunch of amateurs better than a multi-billion dollar organization.

Yeah, I mean....I don't really think we have a clear idea of the track record for development for these guys yet.

Mingo is gonna be out of the NFL in about a season. This is sort of the issue with us. I mean, we have seen what a top 15 WR looks like recently. Is there anything that all about XL that reminds you of DJ as a rookie? Not me. Not at all.

Yeah, it was objectively not a good year by just about any measure. Look, I wish it was different, that's for fuging sure. But, he is who he is and you might as well steel yourself for the likelihood that this doesn't appreciably get better.

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/stats?category=receiving&sort=rec_drops&season=2024&seasonType=reg&sortOrder=desc He was tied for 2nd among rookies and was tied for 13th in the NFL. 7 of the guys before ahead of him had even less targets.

Did he not lead all rookies in drops, as well? I get looking at the bright side but there wasn't much bright about XL's year aside from him definitely being better as a route runner than expected.