kungfoodude

We kind of do our NCAA football talking here, so it is probably redundant.

I think we would have a $5 mil cap hit in 2021 and 2022 for that prorated bonus.

I would rather sign a different, cheaper veteran if that is the route we decided to take. We can probably get a vet on a deal less than half what Teddy would be in 2021. Even with the dead cap hit, if we can get someone to take him in a trade(even if we have to give up a draft pick) we would have a big chunk of money to roll towards 2022 cap or we could use it to help us fill out that OL(or some other need position) in free agency. The more I look at the scenarios, the more convinced I am we need to trade Teddy away to get out of that that deal, even if it means giving up draft capital to do it. When it was signed, I didn't realize how incredibly bad that it would look in hindsight. All of my assumptions with the deal were that Teddy would be a ho-hum NFL starter, not that he would prove to be a backup caliber player.

Unless we trade him(which may entail us giving up a pick to get rid of him). We could trade him and get a big cap break. He has $10 mil in guaranteed money in 2021 but I am not sure how that guarantee is written. It is possible they can simply jettison him with no penalty, like we could have with Russell Okung last season.

Most of the weaknesses that he points out are things that can easily be remedied versus him just not having the abilities. I think he can tighten up that footwork before the combine/work outs and probably have that on the road to being corrected by the time he arrives at his new team.

I think it was the latter scenario. Keep in mind, you learn as much(sometimes more) from seeing bad performances from employees as you do good ones. Now he is at least aware of the red flags that can exist. Also, I believe he was on record as saying his first season in Carolina was more about fixing the organizational flaws on the business side of the Panthers(something he didn't have a learning curve to deal with). It seems like he has been fairly methodical about the changes, rather than burning it all to the ground at once and trying to rebuild everything from ashes.

1. Jeremy Chinn 1a. Brian Burns 3. CMC 4. DJ Moore

It would have to be a salary cap heavy team. It is possible....albeit not likely

Yeah, I am thinking the QB market is going to be bananas. It does make me wonder if there is a very slight chance we might be able to move Teddy. I realize that is a huge logical leap but......maybe.

It's crazy to see this whole situation unfold. This is not the Richardson Panthers, that is for sure.

I was going to make a thread about this at some point but I will put it in here for now. Rivers has already retired, Brees may be right behind him, Brady could retire, Big Ben could retire, Aaron Rodgers could retire, etc, etc. I highly doubt all those happen but if even a quarter of them do, that creates more QB needs in the league. I would argue there might be more QB spots open in the NFL(depending on retirements and offseason moves) than we have seen in a long time. That all leads to more reaching at QB in the draft.

Well that is legit the stories we are getting. That he was the loudest voice advocating for him. In all honesty....is it that big of a stretch? A guy to come in and be the savior? Remember that he said prior to the season that he wasn't buying into the "rebuild" mode and that he thought we were a contender. It does kind of fit with that level of delusion....

The Colts maybe not because they are in a "win now" mode. Perhaps someone like the Jags, Jets or Pats would take draft capital for a short term cap hit.

I mean....it's a pretty bad contract for us if he isn't the starter in 2021. He's our highest paid player and would be by a HUGE margin(almost $10 mil) once we cut KK. I'd be willing to trade away a pick to be able to have that cap to roll over to 2022.

I could see this.

The issue is finding someone who wants to assume that kind of salary. It's going to be starter money, so it has to be a place they plan on starting him.

I assume they are perusing it for comic relief or I hope they are.

Oddly enough, it would take some work on the Bridgewater contract to make it attractive. In a trade he is still going to have an $18 mil cap figure next year and a $21 mil cap figure in 2022. It's a pretty rough contract for another team to assume.

It's the only thing that worked. That wave of Huddle outrage actually washed him out of the Panthers front offices. We did it!

They collect QB prospects that they inevitably jettison. Guess they got another one.

Correct. I could see a scenario in which we trade Teddy next season and give away a draft pick for the other team to take his salary. It would be a big help to our cap if we did draft or sign a QB and Teddy wasn't in the plans for 2021.

Well, two more rolls of the dice. Remember your first roll in a trade scenario would come up Deshaun Watson vs. whichever QB is available. You can't make moves based on the potential for injury, IMO. Some of that isn't controllable. As for the scenario of needing to build out the OL to protect him(or a rookie). That also falls back to scheme improvements(this was one of our better years in recent memory in allowing sacks and pressures) and front office improvements. You have to hope that our current front office actually gives a poo about the OL and knows what they are doing unlike the last two GM's.

I would trade the three first rounders, were it my personal decision. You just don't get many opportunities to get player of his caliber that early in their career. You may be technically talking about the guy who is the best player in franchise history and saying that ISN'T a leap for once. But it is a steep price to pay, if that were indeed the price.

The injury risk would be the same for a first round draft pick or anyone else.