Rocky Davis

Skjei has to be a priority over Pesce....and Pesce has always been one of my favorites since he came aboard. Skjei has been more durable and has more offensive upside overall.

The real key to if this trade was worth it is how well Guentzel plays with our guys and in the playoffs and if we re-sign Guentzel. A Cup, no matter who you acquire, is not a given. We gave up Pono and Koivunen and a low 1st/high 2nd, not really concerned about Cruz or the 5th. As noted we have room to add another player - personally I would try to get Vatrano, but I am sure the competition will be pretty high. Jason Zucker might be interesting, he was held out last night because he might be traded. I think I mentioned he might be a good fit last year.

Yeah I meant this year and next. Raanta's deal was just 1 yr.

I believe Freddie has a 2 year deal, he may retire due to medical concerns which is fine but I don't see him not playing if he can. All the guys we waived probably clear.

I was thinking I'd offer them this upcoming draft's 1st and next years 1st and ask for their 3rd back in 2025. He has term and they are retaining 50%.

I'd do that as well with the Blues retaining 50%. They should be low 1st rounders if we play well.

Vancouver, Las Vegas, and Colorado in an arms race in the West!

and those bottom 6 prospects plus 1st round draft picks, plus other picks can get players we would want. I don't want to give up players like Pono, FUS, Nikishin, Morrow who will probably be on our NHL roster starting as early as next year. It's all in the ask of the other team and what we kind of offers we are competing with.

No, I don't think teams will trade a scorer for (I think you meant) scraps, but unlike you and some others I look a few years down the road where we will have to replace some of our core guys and I'd like to actually have good players we developed. I have named plenty of players that aren't "scraps" in our system and picks are in play too. Those assets can get it done. If the Rangers or Vegas want to overpay then let them.

Fine, pivot to Buch, Vatrano, Reilly.......heck maybe think about Zegras who can skate with our guys and maybe just needs a change of scenery.

Team has to play well in front of Freddie his first few starts, get him back in the groove. Pyotr getting solid minutes has made me feel better about him moving forward.

Not Morrow, FUS, or Pono.

What I would be willing to trade: Rees, Suzuki, rights to Alexander Perevalov, a D prospect not named Nikishin or Morrow, and picks. Rees and Suzuki are both solid players that will probably be bottom 6 forwards in the NHL, Perevalov is an unsigned prospect with good upside. We have D prospects teams would love to have. As far as players on the active roster: TDA and Drury are the only ones I see being moved in a trade.

I think YGM played well last year, but he lacks the speed/explosiveness to be "that EDGE" that helps elevate Burns's game. It's why he can't even be considered to play LB....his overall speed. I will say YGM is much better against the run than Burns.

Another bad decision made by the former regime - letting Riddick walk for what Philly paid him. We could have easily signed him to the same deal. The key to increasing Burns value to this defense is another EDGE who demands attention/respect. If you don't add that then get ready for a heavy dose of running at Burns side from other teams and Burns putting up numbers similar to last year's.

I see where you are coming from and I agree we need a top 6 forward for sure. We just haven't been able to put together the right deal for one. Last year we were very close with Svech injured and ran into Playoff Bob who burned his "heater" out getting Florida to the Cup where he became a human sieve against Vegas (who would have been difficult for the Canes to beat too, although I think we would have given them the biggest challenge). If Bobrovsky doesn't play like he did last spring we beat Florida. My point is this team *can* win a Cup without another top 6 added, but the guys in the room have to sacrifice every ounce of their being to get it. The 2006 team was beaten, bruised, and battered and we only knew how bad after they won the Cup. That's what it takes....getting to the dirty areas, winning puck battles, scoring ugly goals, blocking any shot you can (and I think this team needs to find this part of the game) to win a Cup. #LetsGoCanes #TakeWarning #CauseChaos

I know some Canes fans think the "big" name forwards available are the key to a Cup, but let me just point to New Jersey last year who paid big for Timo, the biggest name available, just to lose to us in the playoffs and now are plodding through a miserable year. Well thought out decisions are better than impulse all day, every day. I have been happy that the Canes always seem to be in contention and I know there is a window for a cup, but I don't want stupid decisions destroying the Canes like what has happened to the Panthers. Give me a fair deal for Buch, kick the tires on Vatrano and Reilly, and see what you can come out with. Our D will be OK even if we trade TDA and we aren't getting a goalie. We are rolling with the D and G we have. It's all about the forwards.

I don't want to mortgage our future for Guentzel. He is now "the top" forward, but I don't know if he gets us over the top. He's good, but we also have to remember he's played with Crosby most of his career.... I like Buch better with term and probably a lower cost. I'd also look into what Vatrano and Reilly would cost. Reilly just hasn't found his place in Pittsburgh, maybe he could here? I think the Penguins would want Perets BTW - they are goalie needy too.

I think Burns would bring back more than just that #29 pick from Detroit, not a lot more but another pick or possibly a true depth guy for the team.

Honestly, when KK is playing well he is being paid fairly - it's just he needs to bring that kind of play every night. He's inconsistent and won't reach the ceiling scouts thought he had, but (and I know people hate when someone says this about an athlete) he has flashes/games where he has shown what he is capable of. I spoke about trading Pesce or Skjei, but we just can't this year even though I believe the time is somewhat right to move on from Pesce as much as I like him....Skjei is the better player we need to retain. I agree with Chief above that I would be willing to move Morrow and Philly's 2nd round pick we own this year and maybe a second or third in 2025 for a scorer a la Guentzel or Buchnevic. Less for the other forwards on the market. I would hope if we do trade Morrow we sign Chatty and Skjei in the off season because I believe we may be one D man down to start 24-25.

Honestly, when KK is playing well he is being paid fairly - it's just he needs to bring that kind of play every night. He's inconsistent and won't reach the ceiling scouts thought he had, but (and I know people hate when someone says this about an athlete) he has flashes/games where he has shown what he is capable of. I spoke about trading Pesce or Skjei, but we just can't this year even though I believe the time is somewhat right to move on from Pesce as much as I like him....Skjei is the better player we need to retain. I agree with Chief above that I would be willing to move Morrow and Philly's 2nd round pick we own this year and maybe a second or third in 2025 for a scorer a la Guentzel or Buchnevic. Less for the other forwards on the market. I would hope if we do trade Morrow we sign Chatty and Skjei in the off season because I believe we may be one D man down to start 24-25.

No Pono or Nikishin. We have some other prospects and draft picks that can get us there I believe.

I don't want to throw in Pono on any deal because I think he has upside that hasn't had a chance to be seen. I think it would be a mistake. TDA is definitely out there for a trade and I'd almost think that whatever is going on in the background with Pesce and Skjei could make them available although it would have to be for the best forward on the market. Pesce hasn't had a great season and doesn't have the leverage he had before the season started. TDA, Raanta, maybe Suzuki and maybe a 2nd round draft pick is what we have that I can see us using for a trade. Maybe Pesce to land a top 6 forward. I'd also include KK at this point, but I am not sure there is much of a market for him - I don't think he'll ever get to where scouts had his ceiling.

I was a little surprised we'd pay $1.3M for a 6th round pick to help out Toronto, but did we also do it to curry favor with the Ducks? There are possibly 3 targets on the Ducks that *could* help the team: Henrique, Vatrano, and a flier here: Zegras. Not saying this was the reason, but a 6th round pick barely moves the needle in any kind of trade and the chances of hitting on a player as a 6th rounder is low, low, low...although I will say the Canes have been very good at picking players and stashing them when they have some belief they will develop further.

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