Moonraker

This didn't impact the game since we got a 1st on the next play but it's still ridiculous. I love football but it really is a joke, nobody with half a brain and any real world experience believes that the amount of money in sports betting is having 0 effect on the outcomes of these games. It is not healthy for anybody. We have people telling players to kill themselves or talking about doing things to their family because they dropped a pass or didn't get enough yards for their over. We do too much to promote and enable people to be the worst version of themselves. It's only a matter of time before some massive scandal is broken.

I've seen enough tape review to see that we run crossers...we have dudes in the middle of the field. I have to think that this is a harder area for someone of Bryce's stature to hit. You have to see directly over the center of the line and is probably where the most interceptions happen (he has thrown a LOT of his picks by not seeing a dude in the middle of the field).

That is a shite reality to face, but I do agree. I still want us to win though lol.

Where do we even go with QB if that's something they decide to pull the trigger on in the offseason? I have a feeling we are another season away from that becoming reality.

Our record has severely outpaced where we actually are as a team, in my opinion. Outside of the 30-0 win where Penix literally played like a Pop Warner QB, we have struggled to win any of our games. We have no problem getting blown out, though. We have invested a ton in our offense and it is still bad. We will never be good until we can get on the right side of the league scoring avg.

He's a hindrance. That isn't a personal attack, it just is what it is. I feel like everybody exploits the middle of the field, it's a crucial part of an NFL offense and we seem incapable of doing it with him. We would need an all-time elite defensive unit to compete with him at QB

It doesn't make me less angry about how we played yesterday, but the ONLY reason we're even in a position to be this upset is because the Bucs have been in a total death spiral. They were losing their chit after Thursday night...we'll see this weekend whether it's a galvanizing moment for them or a public timestamp on their total collapse.

It won't be cold in their game.

We actually stopped them on that 4th and 1. It was just a classic infuriating Panthers game where even when we were up 17-7 you felt like it was only a matter of time before we figured out how to lose.

Shough did just that on the slant to Olave. Horn had sold out for the pick and if that ball was anywhere near behind him, it's probably a turnover. Instead, we are here.

Losing to the 3-10 Saints is not what I'd consider playoff experience.

I think going for it was right...it's what we do. I think Chuba chose the wrong hole, he dove right into the back of a dude that had already lost and stood straight up.

I agree. Was answering the mans question. My faith in the team to perform when it's all on the line could not be any lower right now.

Yes. We have to win 2 and the Bucs have to lose 2, doesn't matter which way it happens. That's why losing yesterday was such a colossal let down.

With how injured the Bucs have been I would be surprised to see them send starters out if they win the next 2 weeks. That would really be a kick in the nuts to have us play their 2nd string in a meaningless finale.

The rule really is quite insane when you think about it. The NFL is so hyper-regulated in every way now. It's not fair to expect human beings to make these calls. You can blame the refs but really, I blame the NFL. Protect them in the pocket and other than that you should expect to get your head knocked off.

Def not rigged. I would agree that the quality of the games in general has DRASTICALLY gone down in recent years, though. And a lot of that has to do with the refs.

We are 4.5 points under the league average for scoring. Not gonna be a very good team when you are on the wrong side of that. It's quite shocking how bad our offense is considering the insane amount of capital we've invested compared to the defense.

Agreed. They have guys that have been there before and have proven they can get it done. We don't. Maybe we will, and I'm not saying we can't...but I know where I'd put my money.

It's not mathematically over but with so much evidence on the table I just don't believe in our ability to get it done in the last 3. The Bucs probably feel the same way, but I actually believe in their ability to show up when they absolutely have to, especially against us.

This might not be a big deal but it actually drives me nuts when we have our little Bobby Boucher "slap hands" moments going into the locker room. It feels fake as phuck. It feels like most of the leadership and corporate meetings I get on where people just spew slogans and absolute nonsense ad nauseum in the name of being positive. I don't know what's actually going on behind the scenes as far as instilling a culture goes, but the one we see publicly feels like a weak facade. Dave is like a youth pastor who sometimes calls great football plays.

Is it weird that I find the beating the seahawks route more viable? It shouldn't be, but I have more faith in that happening.

I'm just tired/drained after this game. I hate that I let this team ruin my Sunday again. I think I'm gonna golf next Sunday and just check the scores from time to time. I've never been mad when I just see that they lost...it's a different story when I watch.

I'm not X and O smart enough to pinpoint the problem. But, it FEELS like everything we do on offense is a titanic struggle. Then you flip it and watch dudes just catching lasers 15 yards down the middle of the field and they are the only dude on the screen? I just don't understand what I'm watching. I'm not joking when I say it feels like a miracle every time we score. Maybe that's just me being a Panther fan.

You have to pay for all-22 yeah? I'd love to look at some of them but I don't really want to pay to get pissed off lol