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Yep all I'm saying is that I want more evidence than that. Is that allowed? I suppose not. You know it's endlessly amusing to me that people in my age group were ranted at non-stop growing up about how trash TV and the internet were destroying our brains and ruining our ability to think critically. In an amazing twist ending it turns out those most susceptible to it were actually the people who were saying that in the first place! Directed by M. Night Shyamalan.

This is what's going to happen Eventually there is going to be some kind of revelation that some COVID-related fugery occurred somewhere as happens every day when we're talking about our half-broken for-profit monstrosity of a healthcare system. Some non-COVID deaths coded as COVID. Some severely edited "whistleblower" video from a dipshit like James O'Keefe or one of his surrogates where a hospital administrator talks about what a money maker COVID is. You know it's going to happen eventually, and we all know what comes next. It doesn't matter if it squares with what they were claiming or if it was even anything all that rare in the hospital billing/insurance/federal aid arena- this has become such an ideologically heated issue that anything that seems to come remotely close to confirming their worldview will be seized on.

I feel bad that you wrote this book when if you Google this woman's name you'll find all the anti-vaxx non-profits registered to her name in Florida. She's an activist trying to get famous. e: Yeah it is a very powerful accusation, which is why if you're alleging a huge murder for profit scheme that would make the Mafia blush you need a mountain of evidence or I'm not going to believe you. Give me multiple corroborating accounts from people who don't have a history in anti-vaccine activism or aren't allied with other kooks, give me a paper trail, give me all the proof that has to exist because of the dozens, possibly hundreds, of people in on this scheme. What you're doing here is shifting the burden of proof:

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Fraud happens every day in insurance/Medicare/Medicaid billing and so on. I'm sure it's happening right now in the present crisis. I'm sure there are a non-zero number of non-COVID deaths that are classified as COVID deaths either by accident or perhaps intentionally. If you're saying there is a large-scale conspiracy going on where hospitals are intentionally killing people for federal money though you're going to need a shitload more evidence to convince me than an anti-vaccine activist with multiple non-profit corporations registered to her pretending to be a regular every day nurse putting it all on the line to tell the truth on YouTube.

I'm discounting what she says because she seems like a grifter. Ah amateur conspiracy YouTube. Also worth noting that that channel is like 10 days old.

The woman in the video is also an antivaxxer e: that link was broken for some reason She has like five corporations registered to her name http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResults/OfficerRegisteredAgentName/Olszewski, Edward J./Page1

open your eyes sheeple

This has absolutely ripped open major, underlying problems with American society and our system of government. Whether or not anything changes remains to be seen. I will say that the conversation does seem starkly different but that has to translate into action.

Let's say some guy walks out his front door, gets in his car equipped with air bags, crumple zones, seat belts, and other modern safety features, and drives off. He gets fuging creamed in an intersection by somebody running a red light. He survives but is badly shaken up. What he takes from the incident is that all the safety features of his car are a waste of time because he didn't even die or suffer massive injuries. Not only that, he's no longer wearing his seat belt and is going to pull the fuse for his air bags because he's decided he doesn't believe in the concept of accidents and won't be in another one in his entire life. If you're on of those "the lockdowns were pointless because 'only' 100,000 people died" guys, this story is about you.

Wrong, it's a gigantic global conspiracy to make the President look bad. Why just yesterday there was somebody wandering around my neighborhood asking if I had any family members who had died recently so they could code their deaths as COVID. There are much more credible sources of information out there than the LAME (see what I did there) stream media, like this round man with a red face who sells supplements and yells a lot you should check out on YouTube.

Saying that the protests are over something as generalized and non-specific as "authority" is uh something of a mischaracterization

The opportunity for this to be a non-political public health issue was back in January or maybe early February. Obviously it didn't happen that way.

I guess we'll see huh

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It's not going to happen that way because states run their own elections and can make their own rules, and there are several (trigger warning, politics) who are ideologically opposed to letting everybody who is eligible to vote do so. The federal government can't force a state to adopt universal vote by mail any more than it can force them to stop. The only way the entire country would vote that way would be if all 50 states decided to by their own volition.

Oh it's very much topical. If we're going to safely conduct an election in November amidst a pandemic we should consider vote-by-mail. I know I am but that's because anybody can vote absentee in North Carolina and you don't need a reason. I think the chief executive of the United States having a sloppy meltdown over it is germane.

Can we get somebody pretending to be a doctor or some guy yelling in a pickup truck on YouTube to say this please

lol Florida is just outright lying about their numbers and firing people who don't go along with it See guys it's true that you can't trust what the government says, just not in the way you thought ;)

It's just the flu brah

Unless something changed or they struck a deal in the last few hours my understanding is that the Republicans aren't going to let it reach the floor.

Dead as dead can be in the Senate

If anybody has access to YouTube they're streaming the grown ups talking about COVID-19 response

Scientists had been warning about a novel coronavirus emerging from China as far back as 2007. This is new to the layperson but it didn't come out of left field at all. This thread has veered back into this direction again so I might as well say that I think the topic is inherently political, and unless you're talking strictly about the hard scientific aspects of it you can't avoid it. The actors in our federal government who craft our pandemic strategy are either partisans themselves or were appointed by partisans like the President. This is a large scale, high stakes stress test of the style of governance a lot of people in this country want.