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I still can't get over how bad the HOF did Peppers with that bust that looks nothing like him.

well, I think they did hunt for one. That's what the firm attempted to do. but as you said, who wants to have their career essentially instantly killed by coming here. That IMO is what the qualified folks think. So you have to go the longshot route. The dudes that aren't being looked at anywhere. And that's what we hired. A GM and HC who no other team even sniffed.

the 2024 Panthers were brought to you by.....the people who also brought you the 2023 Panthers. It never made sense. It never will. Tepper and Jim Caldwell brainstormed that the answer was already employed here and went through the 2023 joke with them. Morgan. Morgan helped make this mess. We played ourselves. Fitterer should of been fired with Rhule. Morgan and company should of been fired with Fitterer. We keep pretending like the problems aren't the problems and scapegoating one guy each year.

at this point, I have zero faith they can pick one or put one in position to thrive. I'm in the camp of just signing some proven vet and dreaming of the day of getting back to .500ish.

live action reps are where you can sort of gauge a player....and build around what they are presently doing well and not well. The whole strategy aspect of sports. Which determines wins and losses. So again, I see zero reason why you wouldn't rep a bad QB......in less controlled scenarios. Against, players, schemes and play calls that all will be unknowns in comparison to his own teammates. I personally don't think Bryce Young is a NFL QB. Frank Reich did a horrible job with him going into last season though. 2 things can be true. If Canales doesn't play him going in, that's dumb too.

Houston has a Pro Bowl/ Playoff winning QB from last season. They also had an extra preseason game.

He is a green, young and not very good QB. and this is a brand new system. live action matters. In practice he sees the same players with weaknesses and strengths he uniquely knows. I mean the game itself doesn’t matter, as in winning them. Bryce Young getting a lot better matters. I don’t agree with the less is more for bad players. Practice vs your own is just that. No reason not to rep him as much as possible.

If Canales doesn’t play Bryce this preseason he can see the door as far as I’m concerned. Why are we hiring coaches that treat green/bad QBs like pro bowl vets.

I think it is predictable. Bryce Young isn't very good....and Canales plays a style of football that probably makes Frank's O look like a good fit for Bryce.

Disagree compared to those that were mentioned. His physical tools…size, speed, strength, ability to play the ball in the air are all better than them. I mean he is a very specific type WR. Most are. He doesn’t fit what Bryce Young does. I’ve said that from the jump. Does hit fit what Dave has been around? Yes. XL isn’t going to be anything until paired with a QB that plays the game that fits him

Brees and Brady could nickel and dime folks, especially as they aged....but the prime versions would throw the haymakers and would play aggressive downfield. They became the king of nickel and dime after HOF careers were already stamped into the books.

yeah, not sure about that. Marvel has been in a slump... but the last 2 Marvel movies were pretty good. Guardians 3 and Deadpool/Wolverine were both strong.

pretty sure we have heard similar stuff said about Shi Smith and some other guys since 89 has been retired. IMO, it's never the greats the really do well in those roles.

I'm not buying into Steve Smith is about to make something out of someone. 89 has been around a LONG time. He isn't the WR whisperer/mentor. Put this under the been here and heard that before pile.

problem solved! Steve Smith's mentorship has provided us with a long list of great Panther WRs. 1. Uh....

pretty much. Fitterer essentially has ensured a roster spot for him this year because of the contract. So let's say a Penny was better. You would have to be a LOT better to for the Panthers to eat the Sanders money.

I'm done. Frankly, the worst possible outcome is some tiny improvement that ultimately means nothing. Dude doesn't have the physical tools to be anything at this level. Nothing of note. It's pretty glaring. We need to move on from him after this season. Take it on the chin. We should be good at that at this point. Let Canales get a QB that does what he does in year 2. Then go find a QB to be our future.

Sanders got that never should of signed and then overpaid him style

I mean, healthy? I'd rather have him as part of the RB committee than Miles Sanders. But paychecks dictate roster spots. ideally, we go Chubba with a little Miles to start off the year transition to Chubba with a little Brooks then Brooks with a little Chubba down the stretch

I think Matt Rhule is on record about not really treating players right when he arrived into the NFL. Clip someone of him addressing what he learned and it was version of he basically wasn’t prioritizing that they were actual people or some poo. Which jives with post above. It’s must a nice way of saying he was a jerk/not players coach

Bryce wasn’t a good QB and was paired with a predictable O. scheme might be changing but Tampa was very predictable last year. Big plays downfield kept them alive.

2023 refresher?

Hard to get excited about the guy who brought you the worst run O in the NFL….talking about the run is where his mind is at.

We also could have just never gotten rid of John Fox.