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yeah, but Canales is literally listening to the whole thing going down and greenlighting it. I mean, if Canales thought a better approach was needed, that's sort of his job.

and I don't think he got enough credit for really getting a NFL locker room. I mean he came up in a tough one himself. I don't think it was pure luck how his teams became to be in the end. Lot of frankly old school personality types all magically ended up with Ron. Ron probably will always be my favorite coach here even with his warts.

I also feel stoic Ron.....was a lot tougher than credited for. He didn't do the sideline theatrics. But every once in awhile behind closed doors Ron still would show up on the sidelines. For all Ron's flaws, I do think he had a pretty good style and approach overall. Toughest behind the scenes. Believed in creating a player centric locker room and looking for those types.

100%. I'm just saying Dabo while being the posterboy of a rah rah coach.....has really tough side to him that he unleashes on his players as his expectations are super high. we have now hired 2 rah rah coaches. Both lack that other component to date IMO. Everything can't be a clap clap and well get 'em next time.

not that he would work at this level but I still think Dabo is sort of the ideal textbook rah rah coach. Dabo gets an A+ in the whole culture and motivator aspect (Canales ain't on that level yet but he got that positive energy) But Dabo has sort of this darker side that can come out. Will Dabo completely ruins someone's day in a blowout win vs SC State because their is a teaching moment that pops up? Yeah, Dabo will undress someone to the point it almost makes you feel uncomfortable watching him do it on live TV. Doesn't matter they were up 31 and you were a backup in getting your reps. Dabo knows in his system, he is going to need that dude later.

as Morgan would say.....we lack "dawgs". I will say, I do think this team/era lacks a certain energy to it. I don't see the players rostered that provide it. Canales is a rah rah HC. Bryce Young is as a laid back as it gets. I mean, who is the voice on the O side? Who is the voice on the D side? I mean, we have some decent players. But is Derrick Brown going to round up the crew like a Thomas Davis would if things ain't right? Who is that voice on the O? Carolina doesn't have an edge. I think all teams need a couple players at this level that provide that. Not just on the field but in house. That remains a mystery. Roster full of nice dudes, cashing checks. We need a couple w/ a screw slightly loose that probably have an unhealthy relationship w/ winning/losing.

I once had people verbally rip my head of and poo down my neck because I didn't think paying 2 RBs featured money at the same time was a good way to build a football team. But yeah, it was never weird back in the day. heck folks made a friendly Panther just trying to hustle a new business run away because....yeah, the huddle always has been the huddle. It's our GM now. But this place never was what some like to recall it was.

Two thoughts. 1. In terms of talking football online, the archaic huddle is about as least toxic as it can get. The modern social media sites are way more toxic than the vintage message board format here. 2. People always look back and create a version of the huddle that didn't really exist. In fact, I would argue there were windows where people were way harder and angrier about Jake freaking Delhomme than they have ever been about Bryce Young (which is really more apathetic than anger).

I have long liked that Bears backup QB, Bagent. Why we don't have something legit in the works just in case remains malpractice.

Tepper should just move the team then so I can be done with them at that point

We basically have an entire roster to build still. Dumping money into him makes that harder. but we have very bad people at the top in Carolina….so you never know. I maintain vision and planning isn’t what we do well at all. We are the random parts franchise. So we could very well do something dumb in the name of losers being desperate to shake the streak

David Tepper, Jim Caldwell, Dom Capers, Dan Morgan….the folks from the disasters are all the top thinkers still at BoA.

Almost every snap and it will be glorious

Is this our new PJ Walker? XFL MVP and now the UFL MVP?

Sure, they won’t get their ask but I would assume it’s draft picks we can’t afford or one player we can’t

It’s says the want 2 impact players and draft picks. we literally only have 2 impact quality players on the entire roster

Dan Morgan has been part of the front office problems for going on a half decade at this point.

maybe I could of added some disclaimer about this era of football. But for me, that’s just a given. I mean, Terry Bradshaw for example was playing in a different time and game. In this modern passing era, if you are talking the worst QB rookie season….that’s a convo that involves Bryce Young. 100% he is in that discussion. Stupid take? Bruh, I got way wilder takes than Bryce Young’s horrific rookie season.

Joint practice reps are still 100% a different animal than live game reps. Apples and oranges. Carolina displays that year after year. I’m not underselling joint practice reps. They serve a purpose. And that is merely different humans to rep against. So it’s a different tests. But if your QB wears a red shirt. You make plays that don’t actually exist in real football because the pass rush isn’t real. Turnovers get wiped….and you just keep going. That’s not a game simulated environment nor tells you where your team is. It’s groundhogs day at this point. And when the Panthers look like dog poo….our coaches go to the only talking well they got….but we looked okay in joint practices. You are underselling real reps. Both matter. This mantra that looking dysfunctional with the but we got some nice practice reps in started with Rhule and has been oversold ever since here in Carolina. and we have weirdly and uniquely not repped our weak QBs enough going into seasons for some time. Which makes no sense. We treat our QBs like they are prime Peyton Manning and make excuses why they don’t need it. They need them. And we don’t need to be protecting weak QBs we need to be developing them and getting them ready for the opening weak half of this schedule (which is where you would find wins). 2nd year in a row, BY will not have a preseason completion vs a starting D. That once again makes the worst team in pro sports unique. Find a QB of his caliber where that exists?

Those joint practice reps are something completely different. And it’s proven to be such under Rhule, Frank and Canales. because your QB gets a red jersey. And he can throw a pick, get “sacked”, not move the chains and still log a “touchdown” in a joint practice series. That’s not a game situation, today was. people have been spinning the practice reps for years now at this point and they proven to just be a bunch of random practice reps. We heard Bryce was playing like a 7 year vet right exclusively in joint practices…..then put in the worst rookie season of all time it’s the whole fool me once thing. We are in a repetitive cycle until proven otherwise for me .

I recall saying it last preseason, but once again Dave Canales is sounding very Matt Rhule-ish again. his starters finish with -2 yards on the day. Done for the preseason. They were supposed to play 3 series…. but Canales said they didn’t “earn” more time. Bro, your team stinks right now. They earned an embarrassing amount of reps. They couldn’t do basics. What they earned was to stay on the field until they did something competent

I’d say 2 things 1. We have watched them and they look horrible. Starting O in preseason has literally negative yardage vs their starting counterparts and our depth has been embarrassed. That’s what we are rolling into the regular season as 2. We are not just the worst NFL team but also the worst team in all of pro sports under David Tepper What evidence is there of competency?

Tepper not actually parting with the entire Fitterer and Frank Reich debacle was always going to haunt us. And basically the same folks basically just made Canales the face of the new operation

Maybe the entire issue is……all the Fitterer era folks shouldn’t still be running the show. Which they are.

PJ Walker is the only QB with a winning record in the Tepper era. He might suck but at least he provides a level of fug it let fly football.