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I don't get all the Jeanty to the Jags talk. I think that's the smokescreen. Think they want to trade down and let someone take him. They got 2 good enough RBs on the roster and tons of holes. They were right there with us defensively in the gutter and they got basically 1 WR. But it's the Jags so who knows. Them trading down makes more sense than anyone.

I don't think Jeanty is a 2nd tier player. He just happens to be RB in the year 2025. and I'm going to go out on a semi limb.....I think Travis Hunter is going to disappoint in the NFL. Given the hype. Solid player. But I think he is going to be over drafted off this illusion he can play 2 spots in the NFL. I think he plays one and isn't dominate.

I look forward to every team boasting about how the draft worked out exactly how they planned and they got exactly who they wanted from the jump. in every single round.

I wasn't CMC. Only picks in all honesty I have called early and wanted and been right on of late are Cam, Luke and finally XL last year. I mean, I knew we were drafting Bryce, had Horn figured out, etc. going in but I wasn't championing those ahead of times as the picks I wanted. I have no confidence they take Warren but I want it to be the pick. I'd prefer them take front 7 guys in rounds 2-4 and add a FA starter. We get Brown back. I don't think it will be a tough assignment to improve next year upfront vs last year on D. Take Warren in round 1 and do something like Jordan Burch in round 2. Then add some more talent up front in rounds 3 or 4. Add a slot WR or 3rd down rec RB in the other.

feels like last time panthers55 and I agreed on something was 2012 when we advocated for Luke. 100% certain that Warren must be the pick now! Overall the board didn't want Luke then either.

I'm taking Warren. I'm not letting need twist my arm in the top 10 We had the 32nd ranked rush D last year. I'm not solving a lot of DL issues drafting a small undersized edge player that is just an okay pass rusher. That's more than likely a project. I want on field help out of my top 10 pick. Draft front 7 in rounds 2 and 3 and find a vet to bring in for short term help. Not a huge gap IMO in terms of front 7 prospects in the first and second rounds.

true. but that's not true for all 32 teams and 32 owners. and the Sanders family is bringing a very crafted NFL PG-entertainment vibe with it. Teams don't want distractions. But I also wouldn't lump all distractions as they same. I would assume, there are teams that don't view the Sanders media show as a typical distraction but can be a bonus.

I might could see Sanders going at #8 and some team making sure NO doesn't take him. Just because everything is a reality TV show these days and he provides some short term bump nationally for a team (so Sanders offers some things non-football related others don't. No one really does in comparison). It is an entertainment league after all. So I actually think that aspect will keep Sanders from taking the drop his football play says he should see and some expect. in an entertainment world, for an entertainment league, the Sanders family will make sure the team that takes him doesn't totally strike out. They get early returns.

I mean, I know this is UNC country but yeah, I think Jeanty is special. And I generally would say any team would still be stupid to draft him high being special. I do like Hampton a lot and feel he was overlooked by the media. So not knocking him in anyway. I just don't like this first round. Jeanty is safe. I think Warren is safe. Will they be All Pros? I don't know. I think both can get out there early and be solid NFL players. So it's not really about me liking Jeanty or Warren. It's just disliking this draft more than any I can recall going in for a long time.

that's why I couldn't take Jeanty and Warren off my board at the top. And if anyone has followed by postings over the years, I am about as anti drafting a RB high as anyone on here. I just don't like this draft. But hey, that said, watch it turn out some monsters I'm doubting. A lot of the draft classes I have loved have been bad.

Walker seems 100% to be the pick. I have accepted that. I dislike it though. I don't think putting an undersized guy on the edge of our D......is the right move w/ a top 10 pick for the 32nd ranked run D. I think he will be situational pass rusher that doesn't wow at that. That's not what I want from a top 10 pick.

I'm team Warren too. I accepted the Bryce pick, I can't accept not giving him players out of the backfield and over the middle to get it out quick too. I've been talking about those points since we drafted him. Creating an offense around old slow AT basically the polar opposite of how I would build a Bryce Young O. The definition of the Tepper era is random parts put together and it's supposed to somehow work. I still just see random parts and no real vision on O. If we wanted Bryce (an anomaly), you have to cater to how he plays. Not just saying, well if he was good enough, he could make it work in anything. If you asked young Cam to play like Tom Brady and gave him older Brady weapons (small quick game players)......Cam's career would have ended quick. Cam was an anomoly. Bryce is. Just different ends of the spectrum. You got to cater to their style of play.

I think it's easier to miss on pick #23 than on pick #8 pending you play the Marty Hurney logic at the top of a draft and just take the surest thing.

it's the Panthers. So Morgan probably would trade back for a conditional 8th round pick. Then they would trade back up after seeing all the players they want get drafted and give up 2 first, a rolex, and a weekend on Tepper's yacht.

he is undersized to be a base player. it's also something recently talked about in terms of Micah. I mean, just look at Micah matched up vs some of the bigger tackles in the league. Former Indianapolis Colts head coach Chuck Pagano made an appearance on The33rd Team recently, and revealed that the Arizona Cardinals may have created the blueprint as to how to beat Dallas. "Run at Micah Parsons!" said Pagano. "They came up with a blueprint and damn did they run at his a**, and they put big bodies on him...he's a smaller guy (than some defensive ends)," said Pagano. "You get a tight end and a tackle and doubling him ... I think Dallas is going to have some issues.'' In their stunning 28-16 victory over the Cowboys, Arizona ended up rushing for 222 yards on 7.4 yards per carry, with two touchdowns. James Conner did a bulk of the damage, as he alone accounted for 14 carries for 98 yards and a score, on seven yards per carry.

I think the only way we trade down and not get ripped off......is if someone oddly falls to 8 that isn't expected to fall that far (some late breaking news type thing on someone that hasn't bene talked about). And in that case, we probably need to draft that kid. Hopefully, Morgan doesn't just have it in his mind to trade down for the sake of trading down for peanuts. But it's a legit worry IMO.

Still think it's just an odd fact to follow that we drafted more players from there than any other program in the nation. #1 -South Carolina Tied for #2 - UGA, Bama, Ole Miss, UNC, Washington Carolina Schools Drafted - App State, Coastal, East Carolina, South Carolina, North Carolina, North Carolina State Best college football program in Carolina's since the Carolina Panthers arrived? The school that has put the most dudes into the NFL of the Carolina schools?

2023 - gambling suspension 2024 - PES suspension 2024 - gun incident Too small a window for all that IMO. I’d want to deal him too.

Panthers about to look like chumps. I mean that reporting basically says the Panthers are making it known they take a bad deal. Just not a horrifically bad deal. really just feels like the post child Scott Fitterer was fired and everything else stayed the same. Which in reality it largely did

Well, we could bump old threads and plenty agreed at the time…..a team with the holes we had and our trajectory going forward didn’t really need to draft a handsy man corner with a top 10 pick. It just isn’t that impactful vs other spots/aspects like investing in a pass rush or a passing game when you have neither. Jayce Horn doesn’t have the work put in to have the title of premier DB. Health is likely a reason. Maybe the reason. But to be a premier corner you have to of actually put in the work and have the resume vs the QB/WRs on Sunday. Do I think he is a top corner if healthy? Probably. Still think it was a bad pick given what we were and a bad extension given his health/availability. I’m not betting on him turning into an iron man corner because we paid him. He gets hurt week 1 and not a soul on this board will be shocked. Health is weird. Some dudes just can’t stay healthy. Some are iron men. The unexplainable is what it is of sports. I concede the Panthers got forced into a spot with that where they were forced to overpay

I still feel 100% Tepper tanked that RH deal on purpose after regretting the initial decision. It makes the most sense to have it Charlotte.

I agree with a lot of this. Lot of that front 7 D talent on this draft is pretty comparable. Top of this draft IMO is actually really weak there. It’s why I never took Jeanty and Warren off my board despite the fact they in theory should be off. I mean, we are going to draft a pass rusher in the top 10 whose career season high was 5 sacks? That doesn’t make it move. Not even a little.

yeah, but Horn also highlights why he was such a bad pick (not bad player). The cupboard was bare.....and we spent a top 10 pick on a dude who overall, didn't play a valuable enough position given all of our needs and holes (not to mention his health). as for the rest? Yeah, they have all shown various degrees of growth (well, maybe not XL yet). But I can acknowledge their growth and still say all those......questions.....are still in play that were there when we drafted them. I don't think whatever rocky road Icky or Bryce has taken so far....doesn't change the fact there were safer options. And those questions still remain for all I mentioned. Icky is still a run block leaning LT. Bryce is still a historical anomaly that hasn't silenced that. I still like the Marty approach. Go for the surest bet possible 95% of the time in the first round.

have we managed not only be the worst NFL team under Tepper or do we still own the prestigious title of worst in all of professional sports?