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maybe quietly in season? Hard to really axe them after the draft or leading up to it (time). I mean, that's like saying we things these guys really suck...but we let them formulate our 2024 draft anyway right before we fired them.

Once Tepper figures out the huddle could just run a poll on what to do, he saves money, and essentially would yield the same results.....we all could be part of the team!!

yep, and Teddy didn't have CMC, he had Mike Davis. Reality is, Mike Davis, Teddy Bridgwater, Robbie Anderson, Curtis Samuel all had career years in Joe Brady's work in progress O. None ever to really be talked about again in a positive light. But Joe Brady was labeled the problem. Not Matt Rhule lol. Maybe they simply should of stayed away from Sam Darnold. Hell, I think Joe Brady actually would do well with Bryce Young. Better than Frank. Probably better than this current group. Joe Brady has shown he gets the basics of a check down QB. Just needed to figure out the redzone. And Brady looked pretty good last year helping the Bills turn it around.

Dalton doesn't get us 5-7 wins. Seattle had the 30th ranked defense. And it took Dalton a career high in pass attempts to get the offense to basically reach NFL average for a day. And if the Seattle D was better, they would have gotten home a lot more and not been a fraction of a second late coming for him all game. I don't think Bryce has the tools to be a good NFL QB. He will never deliever what a #1 overall should. And I think, we will move on from him. But some have also chosen to overrate Dalton and what he could of done for us last year. He would have been destroyed last year.

I don't think Dalton survives as the starting QB. I mean, if you really look at the Seattle game... he was a fraction of a second from getting smashed pretty much the entire game and Seattle had a weaker D. And it took a career high in attempts for Dalton to make us look respectable vs a meah D. A better D, given those pass attempts required, feasts on Dalton. I mean, you turned injuries off he has a better season and record. Bryce's escapability and youth helped him survive that season. Dalton ain't got it at his current age. I think if Dalton played and largely stayed on the field. Frank is still the HC.

Probably just a remake but we were promised some new take/spin and we have our hopes tied to some big exciting twist we were promised

yeah, I didn't get where that hype was coming from. Leggette had a total of -9 rush yards lol.

maybe. but everything is handpicked by him. all the soccer coaches he fired. all the football coaches he fired (minus Ron). GMs. all the front office folks. the plans he makes to build facilities and then not. Tepper quickly parts with all his handpicked people when they don't produce. and it's not like Bryce is some lab built QB that you can sort of go back and convince yourself on and blame everyone else around him for why it doesn't work.

Charlotte FC on 3rd HC Panther on 4th HC. 3rd GM. 5th starting QB entering a season. parted with CMC, Burns, DJ Moore and every big name/star Carolina drafted Tons of shakeup in his front office and corporate staff. The fans will show more patience with Bryce than Tepper based on what we know of Tepper IMO.

David Tepper is not a patient man. He is a results now guy. And Tepper IMO is clearly influenced by the outside world. If Bryce continues to be bad, his team continues to be bad, the outside world continues to rub it in his face and let him know......he is going to make moves. Ego. He has proven that over and over again in just about all aspects of how he does things. I think overall, the collective outside world has longer leash than Tepper uses.

that's not where my head expects things to be.....but realistically, it's going to make Bryce uniquely different than all his peers at #1. Even the "bad" ones. Did we overdraft him? I think so. But that doesn't really matter. The org, fans, media, etc largely is going to acknowledge what he was drafted to be. QB is weird. I think you could get away with drafting a DE #1 overall and he end up being a Charles Johnson caliber DE (slow progression where he sort of comes into his own in year 4) vs a Julius Peppers. Hard to imagine QB being treated as such. I think if Bryce has a future of being "solid"....it likely ends up being w/ another team. His expectations, fair or not, or for more than solid here.

Vinegar or mustard. There is a lot we should know about what type people these guys are.

I'm not arguing against it. I'm just arguing when the season kicks off, they should be carrying a legit C on the roster going in.

let's get way more controversial....ask them about cargo shorts and if it's Pee-can or Puh-khan.

I don't really consider the UDFAs part of the team or plan. If he makes the team? Then sure. They carry such low odds. Hope he does.

your team is your team. All sports is, is an escape from reality and something to emotionally invest in that you have no control over. Trainwrecks are entertaining too.

fug it. The Posse 2.0. We got Monk, now we need our Sanders and Clark. We have always liked nicknames. It's what we do instead of winning.

Sure, but you can spend limited resources and sign a middle of the road vet C to compete or just backup Corbett. I’m talking just someone that we factual know can do the job. Not someone great that cost money I mean, we have the weakest C plan going into the season of any team in the NFL on paper most likely. Coming off a year where the interior OL play prevented the O from even attempting to function on a high % of downs. It just doesn’t have to be that way. I assume/guess Corbett got too much work to do right now to have a legit C on the roster. A legit C with experience probably outplays him early and they want Corbett to learn and grow into the starting gig. Which could happen. But that’s still a plan with plenty to dislike

Bar is pretty much set. Playoffs. Pro Bowl. Individual record or award. Every #1 overall QB has hit at least one of those for the last 20+ years by year 2. Real promise. Bryce has to be better. A lot better.

That’s seems more like a in season after injury mindset. he didn’t play C in college and hasn’t in the NFL. Coming off a major injury. I still think you just sign an actual real life NFL C to put behind him before the season starts. I just don’t get the gamble without a real sensible plan if it doesn’t work in place.

We seem to be going to great effort to convince ourselves…

I'm not factoring cap hit. or probably the very good relationship with our front office given his role here off the field. Ignore the team. Ignore the players. If a team had horrific OL play up the middle last year and the proposed solution is to insert someone at C who has never played it a snap in a NFL or college game. I just think that's a bad sounding plan. I'm not expecting them to solve every problem. I'm just asking they add an actual NFL C to the roster for if their plan doesn't work. Just an average guy. And not do it in season after the plan doesn't work.

they would have at least had a collegiate career playing C. Corbett doesn't even have that. but I don't really care about them not drafting a C. I want them to bring in a cut vet C. It's pointless to of spent all that money at G and not have an actual C. Silly gamble. If the C play is bad the entire middle of the OL is going to be a mess. Again.

but didn't that mean, they were planning on moving him to C....but he never has actually played C in a NFL game.

once we drafted JStew I felt we had to let DWill walk once they paid DWill I thought you had to let JStew walk but that made you a hater. In real time, everyone loved those dudes. They were interreacting with fans and all sorts of stuff. Can't remember the details but I feel they had a little online fanclub thing and were sort of early to the online engagement.