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Tepper Panthers are 1-5 in home openers. Lone win thus far is the Sam Darnold/Jets revenge game

honest question, if you remove the 1 game anomaly from his career (that week 18 game)....when is the last time he (Bryce) even finished a game strong?

I realize we were down 24 points when the Carolina Panthers touched the ball for the first and only time in the 3rd quarter...and they went on a 14 play checkdown drive taking the exact plays the Cards wanted them too and gave them overall. and now you got folks cherry picking random plays asking how could it be garbage time if the Cards weren't in prevent on a 3rd down short yardage play or on the goal. all you got do to is just watch the game live on repeat and not listen to the announcers.

down 24 and we get our first possession in the 3rd and what happens? run TE checkdown TE checkdown run run run RB checkdown TE checkdown run TE checkdown incomplete TE checkdown run now on the 4 yard line- Renfrow TD and POOF! 3rd quarter is over. That's not a team even trying to get back into the game in reality. That's just the Panthers taking freebies to make it look respectable in the end and guess what? Bryce gets to pad on 6/7 to his stat line in exchange for making the 3rd quarter disappear. Not sure the hyper focus on the depth of the corners. Cardinals were going to simply drop and allow the easy stuff underneath. Which they did. Did they play a random short yardage play a little different? Sure. That doesn't' mean they weren't just letting the Panthers overall eat clock to bring the game to an end. The Cards strategy was fine on D. You just don't generally see teams implement it as early as they did but they were up pretty big. It's the other units for the Cards that fugged the plan up. again, it's 3 drives, the ONE in the 3rd quarter and only drive of the entire quarter and the 2 to open the 4th. Cardinals gave Bryce stuff in exchange for clock (and the result was slow long drives eating the clock). The rest of the game? They didn't. The rest of the game outside of those 3 drives the Cards weren't in garbage allowance mode and Bryce stunk

Yeah but not one poster has framed it that way. Starting in the 3rd quarter the Cards did invite the Panthers to take cheap checkdowns to eat clock and the Panthers did it. And the strategy worked perfect in the 3rd. 14 play drive of TE/RB dumps and the entire 3rd quarter was gone. Cards then carried the same strategy into the 4th. It just didn’t work as well for them because what of what the rest of the Card team did 3 drives is what we are talking about. Not 3 + quarters. Those 3 drives were the bulk of Bryce’s production. Literally every play wasn’t a freebie. They weren’t trying to let Renfrow get into the endzone once they got all the way down. But Renfrow was down there because the Cards just wanted us to take the dump plays the gave us to run clock. When the Cards didn’t want us to eat clock we couldn’t do diddly vs a meh D

Cards weren't really blitzing that much the entire game. The ones they sent just wrecked Bryce. My opinion is you are over fixated on what happened as we got close to the goal. The one possession we had in the 3rd quarter? That was a freebie to get down there. It was literally just checkdowns to the TE when we weren't running the ball down... taking up the entire quarter. Next quarter Cards were inviting the exact same behavior. Which is why you got those back to back clock eating small ball 14 play drives. Featuring RB and TE easy catches.

You have to make the best of it and find moments of happiness. So, I picked up the Falcons D in my money league for this week.

it's sports. Where anything can happen. A punt returner can basically decide the outcome of a game just by muffing 2 punts. That said, these teams lineup 5 times and no matter the site, Atlanta is winning the majority. They are better. They are favored by 5 at our home. Which is more than a TD on a neutral field.

I think Canales paired w/ Bryce has been figured out. I think Canales is pretty simplistic. Which he told us when we hired him. You need a QB like Baker he is flat out going to make big throws downfield. Or a Jake. He isn't some modern day scheme dude. Run run set up the downfield stuff. It's not going to be the scheme but players that win. I mean, it's not literally every possession but that was every passing O Canales has ever been around and it's the core of what his O is structured to be. Bryce doesn't fit that. Bryce needs a modern day playcaller and scheme w/ the weapons to go with it. Dave issue is the same as the Frank issue ultimately. We got a front office that is building something that actually syncs up. Failure by design. If you wanted Bryce, you don't hire Frank. Or Dave. And you don't draft XL. You draft Ladd. Carolina makes simple hard. Which you see that a lot in life.

and most really good QBs are nickel and diming folks these days because the league really fixates now on sitting in 2 high shell these days to take away those deeper balls (big shift to those 2 high S looks in recent years). But with Bryce teams aren't having to devote energy to taking that away and it impacts coverage elsewhere. You see that with S play for example vs Bryce. Makes his intermediate passing more difficult.

I think his placement on deep balls is more often than not, just bad. When it comes to downfield balls, Bryce generally makes life hard. You actually don't need a cannon for the vertical stuff on the sidelines. Some of the best deep throwers really are just well placed lobs. . Now the deep middle? Yeah, I like a strong arm. Bryce never really sets up a WR to go get it. If you get in position and beat your guy he is going to turn it into a 50/50 letting the defender contest it or make you have to worry about staying in bounds.

Every pass over 30 or more in his career has been incomplete if NexGen is correct. I don't think it is all on the coaches just not asking him enough.

I can't find an incompletion over 44 yards. And I can't find a completion over 28. Not saying they don't exist but NextGen doesn't have anything greater for either on his passing charts. Bryce probably could get it 50 but like most big throws he makes he isn't going to make it unless he pretty much has enough time to get set

Teams running prevent and giving a team yards for clock….is generally what goes down between the 20s. You can’t run prevent D on the goaline.

PJ Walker has a winning record as a starter

What did Parcells say…..he better walk on water? Well, he can’t. And if he can’t….well you need to move on quick. I think we already a clear a year late in that

Not the biggest fan of PFF grades long but they made an interesting point on their commentary this week Bryce Young is presently per them one the worst “deep passers in the NFL” this year. Which was the comeback narrative of being great at it. But PFF deep is actually intermediate. It’s 10 yards. During his comeback he was able to get off those intermediate passes because of the big shift defenses went running man and blitzing. where Bryce struggles the most to date is just being asked to stand in the pocket and throw into coverage. And really struggles on top of that if folks start disguising stuff. (This part is me….and his small stature and arm struggle facing that) so I would expect people just don’t give him man. Dial back the blitzing and just ask him to play into coverage with his arm.

Generally speaking, as bad as we are, we aren’t trailing by 24 the first time we touch the ball in the second half. and he finished how we started. Really bad

No, clearly I responded to your statement that no QB would have been successful. Which means you are actually opening up the door for us to think about much better QBs than a washed old Dalton (who as I mentioned, drastically outperformed Bryce in the one game glimpse). so I’m not even comparing him to Dalton. I’m looking at the narrative you put out about what it would have looked like with other QBs and yeah, it reasonable to assume others QBs would have had a much different season. * summary, you can’t actually dimiss Bryce’s rookie season. See this season as an example of why

Bryce Young averaged 179 pass yards per game as a rookie. we had a one game glimpse that season of the O without Bryce. An old washed Dalton threw for 361 yards (more than double the Bryce average). Pass game had a totally different feel. Nothing close to it with Bryce. I would think an actual good QB….would have been substantially more successful with Frank that could play the way his O asked.

now hear me out.....I think it's reasonable to assume his new found don't be critical of anyone at anytime if you are a Panther fan or it makes you whack.....MIGHT have something to do with the fact he likely has been hearing a lot of things said about him lately he doesn't like.

I mean, right about some statements he made if you cherry pick them. the whole, you can't be critical about anyone at any time or you aren't a real fan is some of the weakest bologna ever said. Said be one of the most critically talking people in Carolina universe.

then why invent the lie? Because it certainly looks like a cooked up bunch of nonsense. If Hunter wasn't even in good enough shape to earn a roster spot....he wasn't in good enough shape to walk in and take on the role he did regardless of what happened with AT. too much Rhule with Canales for me.

this ignores it wasn't about Renfrow vs Tremayne. It was about Renfrow vs Moore. And Canales invented some complete fiction to justify it.

Brees was a modern day great at the sneak. And too often in the Bryce world, Brees is only thought of as old weak armed Brees. Brees used to fling it downfield. He was known for the big downfield gambles in his prime.