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I'm a Shi fan....the WR prospect. But our punt returner is now a guy who has never returned a NFL or college punt in an actual game. That's always playing with fire.

Barkley just went for 164 yards at 9 yards a pop vs the Titans this weekend. He looks pretty healthy and the exact type RB we aren't built to defend. 238 yards on the ground as a team.

lmao I think there is a quote of Rhule somewhere addressing the QB/C fumble in preseason the one time we saw Baker. And yeah, even then he acknowledge the lack of work together Rhule just bullshitting and stealing money at this point

teams lose because they don’t know why they lose - Matt Rhule on Matt Rhule

lol. Matt Rhule bullshitting 24/7 That's why he fired Joe Brady right? Someone else called it in another thread. The Matt Rhule over correction game is coming next vs NY.

Browns blowing coverage was a pretty big difference. I mean, that is football though. But that was a big reason the O had success.

well....seems like a decent coach would prioritize getting him as many reps as possible. And as many reps as possible with his center. OL. WRs. Etc. Instead, we had a bullshit QB competition with the worst QB in the NFL over the last half decade.

I think Dallas will be more attractive for Payton and he goes there. Carolina will be a full rebuild. Dallas will have more workable parts.

Matt Rhule's weekly presser will probably be complaining that Joe Brady got away from the run and that we are supposed to be a running team.

and Horn is a rookie. Doesn't matter how much camp/studying/etc he has done. He has played in 4 NFL games to date against weak competition. Horn still has yet to see a good QB at the NFL level. Let alone a good QB paired w/ a good WR. I'm not worried about Horn or Icky. I do think we can start to judge Brown though.

Bonus stat! Carolina Panthers are on the road this week. This weekend, will mark a full calendar year since the Carolina Panthers have won a game in Charlotte, NC. currently working a 7 game home losing streak. Record I think is an 8 game home losing streak from 2001.

leaning on your new QB (who didn't get a starter work load going in) and not even putting the 1 WR he has legit chemistry with and knows on the field for a single snap.

I'd be okay with sending everyone on staff that came in with Rhule from Baylor packing after the first Tampa Bay game. GM basically brought in a staff where you can do it this past offseason.

He is a slow WR that can't get open. I don't think that is going to aid us. Is he athletic? Sure. But the Rioring Riot podcast basically summed it up. You have to scheme him up and do some sort of gadget play that CMC or DJ Moore could do better. And then it gets really predictable when you finally trot him out there because he will be coming out there for a play that requires you to scheme up something goofy. Meanwhile, you could just have Moore or CMC do it. Do it better. And it be less obvious to the D. Unless he can put on a headset and manage the game for us. He doesn't matter.

I mean that is where we are inevitably headed. The Matt Rhule era will be a pointless one. Basically, highlighted as a period where we did nothing but lose and paid CMC mega bucks. New HC will come in and do an actual rebuild. Get a QB. Build a roster/identity that has nothing to do with what Rhule bumbled around with for a couple years.

I don't see Rhule firing Snow. They are one IMO. Like LG said, he will need/want Snow when he goes back to college. and my pick for interim remains Tabor. Wilks my second choice. The college rah rah BS schtick doesn't work in the NFL. Corny dad humor? Who knows.

I mean, the loss is on Matt Rhule. He had a very poorly prepared team. He had a very poor gameplan on both sides of the ball. He had poor in game management. That's reality. Now, could we of walked out with a win if the refs did their properly on the final drive? Sure. But too much gets put on final drives scenarios and refs. Refs impact the game w/ bad calls from start to finish. You can't leave it up to the refs to get one call right or wrong at the end. What Carolina did for 59 minutes got them the L.

They created it. It was talked about right before the season was started. Baker and his C weren't getting the starter reps they needed (as well as the rest of the OL)....and the fumbled exchange issue got plenty of talk going in as something to watch. Because we saw it the one time we saw Baker in the preseason. The ball on the ground with a bad exchange. It was discussed when Rhule was being bashed for his bogus competitions and how it was robbing people from the reps/chemistry they needed. It was predictable. And predicted.

I would expect a gameplan that doesn't produce the fewest rushing yards of the Matt Rhule era. Against a meh Browns team featuring a backup QB. With a healthy Carolina roster. That was a horrible game plan. It was horribly called game. And the team was clearly unprepared going into the season. I simply expect we should acknowledge why we had the fewest rushing yards of the Matt Rhule era. The answer is on the Panthers sidelines. * largest deficit was 13 points.

well, it's just beating the same dead horse. Everyone knows the why. Even the people who get their kicks acting like Matt Rhule isn't the primary issue in Carolina. We aren't well coached. That's the answer to the why.

yep, Matt Rhule was and remains primary issue #1. The micromanager who has never seen good offense in his entire coaching tenure. until we solve the Matt Rhule issue, there is no solving the problem by only addressing underlying issues.

Hard to say, I mean you don't really know what a schedule really is until it all unfolds. But going in, you would think the window for Rhule to get some wins would be early. Schedule appears to get harder if teams are what we generally think they are. I

this game felt a lot like the Vikings game last year. Complete poo for 3 quarters and then somehow found ourselves in the game late.

Football has been around for a long time. If you lose because of the refs. You still lost. We put ourselves in position for the refs to be able to "impact" the game. Because our team was unprepared, we had a bad gameplan, and stunk all game. Matt Rhule post game said he didn't believe the Browns could get in FG position in a minute. He must not watch a lot of football then. Because NFL teams routinely pull that off at the end of games. and the dope was left at the end of the game w/ a timeout. Should of used it like the Broncos did week 1 in the Super Bowl rematch. Yes, the refs sucked. Yes, they botched calls that last drive. Refs botch calls. They do it all game, in every game. In the end the better team won. It is what it is. But it would have been nice if they at least got the fake spike right. Maybe if Matt Rhule knew how bad they botched it like he said....he should of gone apeshit in game on the refs about it and tired to get something done. Didn't see that happen either. That was the game. And he didn't seem to care that much IMO.