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Wolfe makes a decent point about how it has taken a lot of owners a long time to “get it”. People forget that. 49ers fired 3 coaches in 24 months before Kyle Shannahan. But they are used as an example of an org that “gets it” and people act like that wasn’t part of the path.

Well they all seem to be in agreement and quoting defensive coordinators that Frank Reich has been painfully predictable and the entire league knows what we are doing. And unless you have a roster of all pros you will simply lose in the NFL if that is what you are.

Probably truth to that. I don’t think Frank got what he wanted and was immediately unhappy. And Frank himself said he was ready to completely walk away from football all together…..and if Frank is ready to walk away entirely then some of that was already there. Frank never seemed like he wanted to be here. and there are also rumors that Frank was the guy whispering about the QB spot and who wanted what. Was going to his NFL guys and saying what he wanted and how it could have been different. Which is what forced the in season firing. Which would align sort of with Tepper hinting each firing was unique

The Panthers are not going to stand at a podium and tell people the truth. I have been preaching that for some time. What they say publicly is never worth more than a grain of salt. And we still have some posters that triple down on words that come out of BOA.

Frank Reich is a bad coach Tepper doesn’t really get credit for eliminating a problem he created

Out of respect to Rock Hill….I’m not going to comment on that. I mean, that 10 minute presser of not addressing anything and cherry picked reporters was about as predictable as the Panthers are on Sunday

I have a feeling it’s just going to be a lot of…. ”out of respect of Rock Hill” I’m not going to comment on that style presser.

Burns is our 3rd best defender in reality. Missing Luvu for a stretch is a bigger blow than Burns.

A percentage of it is coaching incompetence. We aren’t playing to the roster. Weak teams have to do that. This OL can get in a grove and run block. That was Wilks secret sauce. We have that talent. Chubba and Sanders are both more traditional early down runners. And once you line up and start pounding the rock…..pass protection is aided off play action. Saw that last year too. And 100% our bad WRs weren’t being helped under Frank. Frank has always been too gun/pass heavy. Always predictable in it. Never creative. He is the John Fox of the O passing world I think Tabor course corrects some basic stubborn Frank flaws.

We are about to witness a repeat of last year (just to a lesser extent). I always thought it was a coin flip in regards to who would take over for Rhule. Wilks got the call and proceeded to have this team looking better. I think we see the same thing occur with Tabor. Tabor is going to win more games than Frank. But not a Wilks .500 record. but just like Wilks. This first game is going to be ugly and rough. Talk was Wilks was intentionally trying to lose it was so bad. we got lots of problems. Tepper is problem 1. Fitt is problem 2. Frank was problem 3. and it’s going to start to become apparent how bad Frank really was. Tabor winning at least 2 and the Panthers find a respectable path down the stretch

and also Lawrence’s starting WR is depth here. Bryce has better skill talent vs a rookie Lawrence as crazy as that sounds.

I mean if you followed Lawrence, his NFL debut felt a lot like his college start. And while he went undefeated and won a natty….it was full of risky and dumb throws early on as he figured it out. Lawerence is lab built physically, but not mentally. He has always had some don’t throw that Trevor to him.

Jags were 1-16 the year before though. They were essentially void of all talent on O outside of their new QB. I just don’t see them as similar to us/this. There was no all star staff talk, no making the playoff talk, etc. going in either. Narratives were just different (but I would concede the offensive realities weren’t that drastically different overall). And while Lawerence might not of met the hype as a one man operation as a rookie….he was still a lab built QB for the NFL. I don’t think the overall feel was comparable to what some here at feeling about Bryce. Lawerence opened his career throwing for 300+ and wasn’t 31st in yards per game like Bryce. Also, in terms of narratives, the QBs behind Trevor in Lance, Wilson and Fields weren’t making him look bad/look like the wrong pick. Urban however was being a one man shitshow

Understandable. And per Frank he is ready to say good bye to the NFL for good. I still think is a red flag for how much a fired HC was really ever ready to go through it all again to begin with . There has been zero energy to this team since he was hired.

If it was an open secret Frank didn’t really want to be there (which was reported today)…..then you sort of have to let him go, right? I mean if Frank is ready to walk away from the NFL game for good today…you sort of have to question how much was ever really into it coming in. Plenty of good places to go collect a check from if you just like the game and work. I think we are in the window where Trpper who deserves a lot of blame, tons of it…..will start to get some that belongs elsewhere or should be shared.

I think Fitt and Tepper sell each other on bad ideas.

Weirdest part for me, is all the former players that are so complementary of him and there belief he will get it done in the end.

I don’t think Trevor and that offense is what got Urban fired though. It got Frank. Urban just got Urban fired.

Yeah, Chubba is largely still just Chubba. We removed guys like CMC so you don’t see the glaring difference when Hubbard is in. Miles Sanders was not a good RB overall RB in Philly. I spent half the offseason telling everyone that. And so now people see him as better than Sanders as improvement. *obviously he has had some steady improvement while in the league. Nothing glaring. Just more reps because what he has always largely been…..now defaults him into the best playmaker we have thanks to Fitt/Tepper.

Full freedom? Did Ben McAdoo has full freedom once Rhule was fired? Nah,Wilks made him run it his way. Thomas has 2 dinosaurs he will have to answer to in Caldwell and Tabor. Who per recent firings are empowered. of course, there is no telling what is true. Panther narrative is rarely the real truth even in good times.

The remaining dinosaurs look to thin the herd of these youngsters

Duce likely influenced the Miles Sanders add. That could be what did him in

I think Frank stared to regret taking the job when he didn’t get a QB he wanted. I think Frank really regretted taking the job when he was asked to give up playcalling. Think Frank knew he was a dead man walking a couple weeks ago when he got it back. Always felt he was half way in to this whole thing anyway.

lol, “time to develop” Bryce I mean Frank is ruining/hurting him. Tepper clearly knows what the talk is about him. Not firing him now is just abut factoring in how the next potential HC views things. Which is all fine. He should fire Fitterer today though. Really yesterday. Last week. Before the season started in all honesty.

Well, Chark wasn’t about that life. And I don’t blame him. Frank up there today channeling Matt Rhule