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I use Pro Football Reference. Please advise if there is a better location to retrieve the actual NFL stats? Maybe they haven't fully updated. PFF and fantasy football sites IMO aren't where it's at. They seem to be in the entertainment game and manufacturing debate stage.

They aren't credited with drops. That's just PFF. Not sure why they are still being pimped this hard when week 1 really highlights how bad they can be at times. Especially when they manufactured Bryce's grade like they did. Some 1984 stuff going on there....PFF telling folks not to believe their eyes and ears.

didn't say it was. Just addressing the billion posts about drops. being wide open over the top doesn't mean much either if your QB can't get the ball out there properly.

it was just clarifying some confusion, there have been about 48 billion posts made by some Bryce apologist that WRs dropped balls and let Bryce Young down (and that's why we sucked). So it was just clarifying the WRs had no drops, and the QBs that did see a drop....it didn't ruin their teams day.

this. although, I think you gotta slightly worry about a very small handful of competent players. Horn, Brown, Hunt, etc. Eventually, everyone starts thinking like Theilen.

that's exactly why Canales got fugged. They were only forced to play Bryce because they allowed that to be what happened when Andy got hurt. The talk was all about trading Bryce Young given it was clearly over. Morgan and Carolina didn't pull the trigger.......they allowed for the nightmare comeback (of meh) to occur. In the end, it blew up in their face sort of like the Wilks tank job attempt. Wilks blew that up in their faces too. Bryce ended up fugging up their plans. Carolina can't do anything right. Even when they sort of get it right in the big picture. They should of dealt Bryce. And if you want to actually tank....you keep Rhule and trade CMC. You don't insert of functional HC into the dysfunction.

Only 4 NFL Quarterbacks Sunday had WRs drop passes on Sunday. Allen, Rodgers, Tua, and Lawrence. 3 of those 4 QBs walked away with wins.

exactly, this is on the level of David Carr.....yet unlike parting w/ David Carr after a year we are entering year 3. We are basically the David Carr Houston Texans right now. Rationalizing how it is really everyone else making Carr/Bryce bad.

Bill Parcells did a great job summing it up at draft time. "I realize there have been a couple of good short quarterbacks, but most of the guys doing these jobs are not 5-10. So if you draft people that look like the people that are already doing these jobs, your percentage (of hitting on them) is greater than if you draft someone who doesn't look like them." and specifically mentioning Bryce Young Parcells said Young "better walk on water"

Russell Wilson is an old washed QB on this 5th team in 6 years. Being better than one random rotating QB each week is basically the life of Bryce Young. Caleb Williams plays the game wildly different than Bryce with wildly different tools. Bryce Young had frankly several relatively easy homerun plays he botched downfield. Panthers WRs winning vertically and BY should can't get it done. Also, there were plays to be made on the ground. Make no mistake Caleb sucks. But Caleb is in a vastly different tier of QB in terms of tools and throws. Caleb can make throws and runs that just don't exist for Bryce on a good day. There was just absurd stuff in reality on the table in terms of plays that could of been made. Bryce just isn't good. It's the primary problem in a sea of problems.

Canales wants that vertical ball and BY just can't do it in the realm of what Canales wants. You can beat your DB for the homerun ball and Bryce is going to turn it into a 50/50 jump ball or force the WR to the boundary. And that's if he is set. If you get Bryce on his backfoot and off set.....he can't make a ton of throws properly. it's just a really bland O you gotta pull w/ Bryce. The highlight is the quirky scramble until humans get close.

I’m sure it’s just a random coincidence that the Carolina Panthers employ a bunch of PFF folks to help build the roster (brag about it) ….and PFF just happens to be giving illogical ratings to our starting QB. you can conspiracy theorize that a couple different ways….but it sure seems like there could be odds our guys at BOA are just getting a solid done for them by their people at PFF to spin their poor decision at QB (and QB is what makes are breaks most folks). OR….PFF is just bad and we now are making decisions of th-5 exact poor logic.

No problem. I addressed that in my 2 things I was wrong about and 1 I was right about post. XL at this point just needs to be deemed Laviska Shenault. A bad WR who has great athletic traits. Scheme him up a quirky play but he can't play WR at this level right now. We need Tmac and Coker on the outside. Renfrow in the slot. Maybe work XL into some slot relief for Renfrow w/ a schemed up play and some run blocking. I was wrong on XL. Given I didn't see this preseason I have him more benefit of the doubt than most. But I'm not going to be some Bryce Young apologist for XL that denies reality. XL stinks as a WR. We bet on raw talent and lost that bet. Is what it is.

Well, it's not a super serious post. But yeah, it is sort of fitting......Bryce is solo just watching a shell game on the jumbotron away from all his teammates....and the first thing he does that drive when asked to do something was immediately throw a pick. Not really the definition of "dialed in" lol. And the immediate pick just is the comedy icing on that cake. Tone is set better at some high schools around town IMO.

I'd wager if you put all 31 QBs in that exact spot....most end up with something better than what Bryce did there. They see Saunders. Or they at least put the ball in the realm of play for XL (4th down is an INT folks can handle). Or they just tuck it and cut back inside and try to fight for 1 yard if nothing exists. I don't think the majority of the 31 chuck it into the stands on 4th and 1

Entire Panther team is all together getting ready for their drive to start. This is the 13:26 minute mark in the second quarter. Well, except for one player off by himself. It's Bryce uniquely separated from the group just chilling. What do you think Bryce is doing? Hyping up teammates? Getting on the same page for the upcoming drive? Nah, he is consumed w/ the Jaguars jumbotron and the silly games they are showing the fans. What happens his very FIRST pass of that drive? Interception where he doesn't see the S streaking down right in front of him. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOWX3HJiWix/

50% of his passing yards were in the final 8 minutes of the 4th quarter.

I don't know what is worse, using clearly bad PFF takes from week 1.....or the even more comical (hard to do) fantasy takes from some random on twitter guy who awards horrific throws by Bryce as...unseen yards lol. I can deep dive stats and cherry pick stuff to make any player I want good or bad. That's the world we are living in now. It's just lying at this point.

well, you suggested if he sucked year 3 with his dude (a rookie, they generally aren't great) then he would be fired. So yeah, that's the cycle repeating. Puts Canales' QB on the new hire. You limit the new HC just like Canales was limited. I still contend the Panthers like always failed to follow through on a reasonable plan. It sure looked like David Tepper green lighted Canales moving on from Bryce Young last year. Bryce never fit the hire and was bad on top of that. Canales got the thumbs up after a mere 2 games. The entire sports world conceded it was over. Biggest question was when and how we would part with him. Then the Panthers let the miracle comeback happen and somehow we have this weird and pointless season. But Dave had his chance/opportunity that clear was Tepper approved. I think for that reason, Canales got screwed because THIS season is when he should of gotten to pick a QB (even if it was a short term vet).

why would you let that 3rd season play out like that.......let what by all accounts is a bad coach use your first round pick on a QB he wants in year 3(or Tepper).....and then immediately fire him? You then force the Canales QB on the next coach. Cycle repeats. Canales had his chance to move on from Bryce Young. It was last year when they buried him.

I nailed the cheap plays, 4 out of 5 were solid discount winners.

I think Tepper gave Canales the window to move on from BY last season after 2 games and end the BY experiment. I think Morgan for whatever reason wouldn't part w/ the QB HE drafted with Fitterer and it cameback to screw Canales. I don't see how Tepper can essentially treat Canales like a brand new start/era in year 3 at this point. Bryce got tied to him this year.

big picture went need 2 QBs though this offseason. 100% rebuilt room. We need to find a vet to start and then draft a future QB.

It’s not hard to track at all. Name any QB that has stayed on the field during that window competing with him for worst over that time span. No one exists. You don’t get the opportunity to be this bad, this long. Only examples would be guys that haven’t been out there that long. So a guy getting a year 2 this year doesn’t even qualify. Bryce already got that.

Why is our franchise a joke? well, they can give us the worst QB play in the NFL for the 3rd season…..and a huge % of the fanbase just defends it. It’s not Bryce….which is essentially Tepper. It’s his doing. So if you are David Tepper you can be HORRIBLE and people still eat it up. His investment grows and grows. No reason to be or do different. Fans will defend the comical as okay. We are starting a kid whose physical tools aren’t as good as middle school Trevor Lawrence and he plays dumb on top of that.