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To me that gameplan was basically the AZ gameplan and others we saw post benching. Issue is Bryce can get in the way. From the jump it was clear it was a standard minimize Bryce day…..but he he still has to pass the ball.

No, the WRs didn’t let him down. XL not getting his feet down on a ball he should have doesn’t fulfill the narrative his WR let him down. Every WR group, for every QB is out there playing imperfect games . Bryce Young doesn’t fit Dave’s offense. Just like he didn’t fit Franks. Technically, that is the orgs faults. I have spoken about that fact through great protest every season since we drafted him. So I’m not putting everything on Bryce. I can talk about square pegs and round holes all day. End of the day, the simple fix, is Bryce. Bryce is the biggest factor in why everyone sucks. He does the opposite of what you want your QB to do. He lowers everything, for everybody. He doesn’t make people better.

Long list of QBs who were awesome at Bama….think likely has something to do with playing with a better roster than your opponents every week

Yeah but then you are changing too many variables and re-creating more than I was doing. Now you are envisioning different separation, positioning, routes, etc. but 100%, they just inserted Renfrow into ATs job. Which isn’t how you use Renfrow. His routes really aren’t in the Canales O. Well, maybe the one where he got Bryce’s INT wiped was an example but they weren’t looking there.

It was at some point his rookie season…really, when Frank had to give him that “break” 3 games in and for Dalton to play vs Seattle. While it was obvious he lacked the tools….i still contend that was peak between the ears of Bryce on top lacking the physical tools

AT isn’t morphing through a defender on an under-throw. I’m sure you can find examples where he didn’t. His hands aren’t so good he defeats an instant helmet on the ball before time to secure it. I’m sure you can examples of where he didn’t do that either. there is some Bryce apologizing going on because you are now painting a picture WRs let him down today.

No sir, didn’t question his hands in a single post. Ever. And I knock AT a lot. You won find a post on the huddle where I knock his hands. What you just did was find a stat about Adam’s play. Which is something totally different. the stat I was referencing was Bryce throwing to AT and the end result of that. Which is going to factor in more than AT’s play. Bryce becomes factored. His bad throws, balls, etc

Yeah, but they weren’t. That’s why I say the legend is growing. Hunter’s weren’t drops. AT wasn’t pulling a nighcrawler and morphing throwing a defender on the underthrow…..and getting smashed with a helmet on the ball before the ball could even be secured. Like I said 1 out of 4 balls to AT weren’t a catch. And hands touched those balls. Some he didn’t touch. Some were poo throws. Into coverage. And broken up. this is low key being a Bryce apologist with this narrative and I can have no part in that

the legend of AT grows! Fun fact - 1 out of every 4 balls thrown to Adam Thielen by Bryce weren’t caught by him. I would assume Bryce having the worst on target % in all the NFL is a key reason and putting folks in bad spots He would have got the XL ball because it was just simple feet though. The Renfrow stuff is just making AT into a myth.

Bryce is 1-13 on the road

I thought they were making fun of Travis Hunter for basically just existing on that defensive rep vs the TMac slant. Hunter was basically standing and watching

They need Coker back. Easiest solution IMO is to put Coker on the outside and view XL like a Laviska Shenault type WR. Which means he is an athlete and not a very good WR…that you can scheme up some plays for and maybe rotate him into the slot for them. And you would get his run blocking inside over Renfrow on occasion as well. Bryce Young just flat isn’t going to be a good fit for XL. He makes throw and catch challenging. Even when things are running “well” it’s a lot of tough catches and often touch catches to the sidelines where it’s extra hard.

My takes. 2 wrongs and 1 right. Wrong - I thought TMac would take some time to deal with NFL coverage and it would take a couple weeks to get going Wrong - I thought XL was going to make a step forward and silence some that I had deemed a tad too hard Right - basically everything else I thought overall going into this season.

I think the reality is he played long enough to simply have one random good game. That was week 18. A complete anomaly. Most of his “comeback” was very average NFL QB play. NFL average was deemed really good. But those were good for Bryce. But he wasn’t generating much offense in reality. But if a good day is NFL average play….normal day is sorta bad. And a bad day is horrible. Plus, teams now have an offseason to study a bad QB who is also an unnatural fit for the scheme he is in.

I would rather lose with PJ Walker or Tommy Jone Delhomme. there is no excitement to Bryce Young’s passing. Never will be. Best aspect to his game is his small scramble ability…..which is only nice until a defender gets close because he has to go down given he is built like a middle school kid. So even that is capped. I just want to be entertained and believe a punchers chance is always there

DBs have been cheating coverage and not playing true to their assignments every year Bryce has played. Especially the S. I think all 3 openers feature a S not respecting Bryce’s arm and dismissing their assignments to make plays.

Carolina did the right thing last year moving on from Bryce last season after 2 games. The right move was to then trade him. He never sees the field again. They fugged that up and set this debacle up. to me, Bryce has always been year 3 Rhule. It’s not going to work yet we committed to a known pointless season

Basically 50% of those passing yards were in the last half of the 4th quarter. it’s all Groundhogs Day.

That’s like the literal kid defense. Was literally every play awful? No. Despite no one claiming literally every play was. Was Bryce Young awful today? Yes. And that’s an easy question to answer

Monster day is relative to Renfrow and Carolina But yeah, he would have had a really nice day with well placed throws to him.

Well, maybe after the game we can debate which of his bad plays was the worst. but that’s how you know he was awful today. Because it will be a debate and a lot of plays to discuss.

Renfrow would have had monster day if Bryce Young could have put balls where they should be. I do agree that Canales just has him Inserted into ATs role. Which isn’t how Renfrow really plays

Come on, that was a fumble. Perfect peanut punch. Knee not down. You might could call it a great defensive more than a bad Bryce play but a clear fumble. and Bryce’s worst play of the day won’t actually be logged. Thanks to Renfrow away from the play. But that should in reality get a QB of his caliber benched for the next week (it won’t but a well run team is shelving a QB).

Renfrow just SAVED BY. That was a sales job away from Bryce’s moronic play. and it sets up a stat padding TD to make Bryce’s day look better than the nightmare day it was

Renfrow would have had a great day….with well placed passes