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Practice squad rules are vastly different now. Blaine Gabbert was on a freaking practice squad last year. Rhule would have to cut PJ for me to believe it. He is super cheap and PJ was a big part in Rhule getting to where he is today. So, yeah, and that type loyalty frankly doesn't bother me if it is limited. PJ actually would be a great scout team type QB for prepping for opponents because of his athleticism. He can mimic a greater variety of opponents. and everyone on the practice squad isn't vulnerable of getting poached off by others teams. Lot of rule changes the last couple seasons. You can make 6 untouchable I believe.

people come to a Panthers message board (where the fanatic fans reside) and some are mad people are complaining about the coach/owners while we are presently in the worst window of the franchises existence lol. It's like choosing to visit New Orleans during Mardi Gras and complaining about too high of a percentage of drunks and boobs. Heck, Ron/Marty and even Foxy hit windows where they got just as much heat as Rhule is getting....and Ron/Fox were clearly better NFL coaches. Yet some are demanding kid gloves for Rhule.

If we sign Baker Mayfield it changes things. Pretty distinctly. Baker would be the #1 and Sam Darnold the #2 heading into week 1. It's not a compeittion either. Baker would be the man. And PJ isn't a guarantee cut because of the Rhule connection. Matt Corral's odds of following a more traditional route of developing behind the scenes then goes up with the adding of Baker Mayfield. It's why I don't want Baker. I want to see Corral play and early (which for me would be midseason). would Rhule making Corral inactive of been a better word? Probably. But the point is pretty much the same regardless. I don't want Baker. Because of the impact he will have and how pointless he is in the grander picture. That's the point of the comment. And their is a reported divide on Baker. The logical assumption is Rhule is the one who wants him. Because Rhule needs to win and quick. Developing Corral and not really caring about wins isn't a luxury he has coming off that horrific 2021.

win%, comp%, TDs to INTs, QB rating, QBR. Jacoby beats Sam on basically every metric. Plenty of them are close but the huge disparity on TDs to INTs I think would comfortably put Jacoby ahead (pending you hadn't overpaid Sam and weren't letting the contract/investment dictate position). I'd personally put Jacoby in the Teddy tier. So I'm not saying Jacoby is good but I'd start him or Teddy over Sam any day. I think they are safe backup style QBs. They aren't winning you games but they can have you in position for someone else to do it.

that's because Rhule and Tepper both have sucked. So you don't have an actual arguement against that.... you just complain and make over the top projections about hatred. again, sometimes people suck at their jobs. This is where it gets talked about in reference the Panthers. You deem that hatred. But that's a you thing. You will need to work on that. People sucking at their jobs is just a reality. Doesn't make them bad people.

you and sizzle might need a safe space thread where everyone promises not to say a bad word about Tepper and Rhule. If we give you that, will you quit complaining thread to thread because people think Matt Rhule sucks at this job.

only person that uses the world hate is you. as you go thread to thread to thread complaining that other people think different than you. some people suck at their jobs. Matt Rhule is one of those people. It doesn't make you a bad person. One day you will learn that.

Corral stuff at the end

I don’t know if you value Chris Simms but in his breakdown on Sam in his countdown he said it would be hard for Corral not to see the field because Sam’s leash will be short….and commented that despite raw Corral will simply look to be the more talented guy from the jump. With intangibles on top of that. And it gets hard to justify to a locker room how a clearly more talented kid isn’t playing. Corral getting out there really just comes down to how bad Sam is and the generally sentiment in house and the stadium IMO. Corral needs to sit. Carolina probably doesn’t have high odds of that being the path though.

Only difference is Baker becomes our #1 and Sam probably goes to their practice squad.

if Matt Corral was my son I wouldn’t of wanted him to be drafted here. We have too much potential for the non-ideal to occur. Plus, Matt simply has potential to be used as a means for this staff to weather the storm of an unpleased home crowd. It started week 9 last year. Leash will be shorter. ideally Corral would have gone to a team and not be seen all season. I’m just acknowledging we have high odds of not doing ideal things with him. If Sam/Rhule start getting boo bird after 5-7 weeks….what are they going to do? PJ might buy them a couple weeks. it is what it is. We still have a comically weak QB roster. Everyone talks about the Browns, they got 3 QBs better than Sam.

the Jake Delhomme tribute to the Killers song will forever be my favorite! This dudes been awesome at what he does for a long time.

Problem for Cam is all the teams he would fit on have young QBs where the coach might be worried about how a #1 would deal with it all. Because even as a legit backup Cam is going to default into some form of leadership role. Like he make sense as goal line threat for someone like the Chargers. Would take some strain of Ekler who is injury prone. But Herbert is still growing in that leadership role. All the Brees, Eli’s, Rivers, etc that could of dealt with it are gone. Rams? They have a QB and coach that could deal with it. And the run game weakness. That’s about the only team I could see Cam fitting on that meets his criteria.

How many 3rd round rookie QBs have been drafted to a comparable situation that is the 2022 Carolina Panthers. It’s all relative. if our QB situation is Sam, PJ and Corral going into week 1? I think odds favor Corral getting on the field at some point. starting Corral as a rookie isn’t ideal. But we likely won’t be in a position to do ideal stuff. Fans turned on Sam/Rhule in week 9 with the boos. So if we don’t win and Sam is bad….I think it comes even earlier this upcoming year. And it matters. Tepper can’t have his coach and QB booed out of BoA for half a season.

Teams with good plans don’t. a team whose QBs are Sam Darnold and PJ Walker for a second straight season?

My bad. Thought it was the offensive drop off from 2021 to 2020 being talked about. It will be okay. Just inside the 2021 season? I addressed that in another post. yeah, CMC applies. So does the caliber of opponent. The first 3 were super weak. It was talked about in real time when some were claiming we and Sam were good. So does teams figuring out what we were doing with Sam and what we didn’t trust him to do. Teams started to get fllm on him. The staff was calling direct runs when it got tight because they didn’t trust him and things like that. I don’t think either drop off is that hard to figure out. If Rhule couldn’t….that’s a problem.

CMC was out for more games in 2020 than 2021 though. He only played in 3 in 2020. 7 in 2021. He can’t really be used in talking about the drop off. *he could be used in talking about both likely would have done better with him more available.

I mean you also have to acknowledge the caliber of opponents we played the first 3 weeks too though. it’s a lot easier to go man on two rookie QBs both makings their NFL debuts. And a team displaced by a hurricane with their coaching staff out.

I just don’t see why the Browns do it then.k if that’s the case. Plus I think Sam being part of the deal would have leaked with the rest of the info. They could sit on Baker and see who gets hurts on other teams. They just signed Jacoby for the role Sam would fill

Exactly. Corral would be 4th on the depth chart and a practice squad guy. And pretty much this is the most Matt Rhule possible outcome. and while Baker would be the best QB in 2022. Especially the start. There is no actual point going down the Baker road. Outside of the fact Baker would probably get us the max amount of wins this team could muster.

Yep. I don’t give a rip about money. What would a team that gave up 3 picks for Sam give up for Baker. only other concern is the depth chart. Camp would start with Matt Corral 4th on the depth chart. We probably never see him and we generally already know the 3 ahead of him aren’t answers. Rhule probably keeps on the practice squad. That’s the primary reason I don’t want Baker.

the 2020 Panthers overachieved. They didn’t have Sam Darnold. Rhule wasn’t hated yet. Joe Brady was getting frankly too much buzz. People here and outside generally impressed we were so competitive. Career highs for a lot of folks. Then enter Sam Darnold. Then they picked up the 5th year. Which is what really made it the killer move. Rhule becomes the biggest clown not named Urban among NFL HCs. His image goes down the toilet starting with Sam’s camp that just got weird. Joe Brady experiment ends with a quickness and is fired. and the 5th year looks to of locked them in to a year 3 of Sam. Ben McAdoo can’t overcome Sam Darnold. so yeah, Sam Darnold would be the pinpoint even if you hated the Brady signing. Assuming Matt Corral can’t enter midseason and save everyone….which is a tall assumption for a rookie 3rd rounder.

He was probably the best realistic option at the time. And Rhule might of done better if he went that route from day 1. Maybe McAdoo could of talked Snow and Rhule out of Sam. Sam Darnold is the singular pinpoint move that will have killed Matt Rhule’s career in Carolina when the story is done IMO.

Again, you fail to acknowledge the playoff season was what got McAdoo essentially fired. They just waited a couple games into the next season to pull the trigger. That’s a weird fixation for you to keep championing. and here is Mr Facts pinning the Sam Darnold signing on…..Joe Brady? lol. Your favorite coach Matt Rhule already detailed how Sam Darnold got here.

lol that looks like a lone bored sportswriter having to make up something for people to click on in the slow month of April. And I’m sure it worked. Given how he is perceived up that way. there is no regret there lol. Well, the media might of enjoyed what a shitshow it got at the end there. It was wild. Which is good for their line of work. I can see we are now done here. If you now are going to troll me with the NY wishes they kept Ben McAdoo angle lol.