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I largely agree. No real reason not to start especially given what Dalton turned into of late. I'm not going to watch it but I think that's the best move. I think it closes the door and we get a legit cleaned house in the QB room next year.

yeah, I think decent odds are we are still falling...rock bottom still coming. I think rock bottom will be this offseason. Where we secure the #1 pick.....Sanders starts doing Sanders things and makes a lot of noise we can't escape. About how a couple top 10 picks will not play in Carolina. I 100% believe Sanders will pull a Manning family move and influence where his 2 boys don't go (not Shilo lol)...only Sanders will be loud. Sanders has already called that move as coming. I think that window will really sort of signal the bottom is basically here.

well, if he was forced by the owner to do X.....he sort of lost the locker room by ownership design. Almost feels talked about. I do think Tepper painfully learns some lessons. And Canales basically came out after week 2 and said one of the reasons he had to bench Bryce is because of how the rest of the team would view it.

I think people are addressing what you are implying with your fact

9 consecutive offense drives with no points. That’s horrific offense. That’s what he did after the opening scripted drive. Game was long over before that final drive when Denver was clearly in not playing actual football mode

I think clearly we are haunted by the bro club that formed in Seattle. So I guess we would need to look at Seattle during the Fitt/Morgan/Canales era to find who the good ole boy system will deem the great find.

only 32 jobs in the world and Tepper cuts big pay checks. it worked for him in soccer largely. Which probably isn't helping on the football side given a new coach every year is producing better results.

Well, he brought us the Hall of Honor. Which I do like. Which celebrates all the players and times that he had nothing to do with.

Alex Smith was literally nicknamed Captain Checkdown. I call it risk adverse. That was Teddy B too. some passes to a wide open Hill (who wasn't really respected yet when they played together).....aren't risky throws.

the box in question literally has Denver fans showing in it. I would assume Tepper was at the playoff game in Orlando

I mean, it's Monday morning after another beatdown. I can either make a dumb post about today's predictable bad meeting Canales is in store for....or talk in-depth about the game from Sunday (which I got little interest in doing).

I'm not pinning anything singularly on the fact he has Monday meetings with his coaches....but the Monday meetings are indeed PART of the puzzle of explaining what makes Tepper such a very bad owner. He has been and remains too involved in the actual football component of what he owns.... and that is basically a consensus nationally and locally in regards to the Panthers.

the O improving off Frank certainly was possible. That basically was what the season was all about. And in that regard, Canales has failed pretty bad to date.

what's grasping? acknowledging that we know for a fact all NFL owners are in fact not doing that? They don't. And we found out about these meetings via a vet NFL coach that stumbled into this nightmare for a couple months. actual owners for the most part aren't doing that....because they don't know diddly squat about actual football, winning games, scheming, playcalling, etc. So why waste a coaches time every week. Most owners are big picture dudes/gals. Not inserting themselves into the day to day/weekly aspect of a football team playing football. As has been said for a LONG time. Tepper should hire someone to run the football team and stay out of it. the real monkey is Tepper. The dude who doesn't know more about the actual football aspect of the Panthers than any random huddler yet wants to be part-time GM/HC.

with this OL? Andy Reid would find ways to win ball games. Andy Reid also is one of the best at scheming guys open for success. Not just asking a man to beat a man. Andy Reid basically slept walked to double digit wins with a vet QB who wouldn't take shots downfield pre Mahomes.

well, we know all NFL owners don't meet with their coaches every Monday morning after every game. A super hands on owner like Tepper does. And that is universally deemed his biggest flaw as an owner. Inserting himself too much into the actual football aspect of things.

yep, the box is full of Denver fans in the back wearing orange too

Joe Person reporting the line opened at 5.5 points for the Saints who beat us by 37 early this year

Payton is a douche. Lots of old clips of Brees having to talk Payton into football etiquette back in the the day. Brees ain't there to do that no more. But I actually don't like Horn fussing about it either to Payton. Fuss at your locker room. That's how deserves it. Your teammates.

I'm not saying you fire him...but you certainly should be judging him on the O side....and it's not good. So if you do bring him back and he didn't show anything? Well, you don't draft a QB #1 overall. You give him a year 2. You invest in a defense. You make him show you something. If he can't in year 2 with a vet QB then you move on and let the new guy draft a QB. We sort of off track now. Frank in theory should be getting the can w/ Bryce this year. Canales hasn't shown enough to let him use that #1 on a QB IMO.

Coaches don't generally say these type things. Generally it's a NFL is the NFL. All teams are good. Winning is hard narrative vs anyone. Dude just said the truth out loud. He couldn't even BS it lol.

bolonga. Canales was given the most expensive OL in the entire NFL and they are dang good overall on the season. That's the engine to any offense. It's a good one. Canales is an O guy. Forget the D, and forget winning. D talent stinks and you can't win with it. That was a decision Canales and company made. We are supposed to be judging the O. Not giving it a pass because certain aspect stink by design. The O isn't supposed to be this bad.

I want them to trade down and draft all defense (generally speaking). we have a good OL. We have young skill talent all over the map we are supposed to be developing. We should go out and rent a good vet QB. That should be the play. Go tell Deion to drive up our draft haul with another team. Deion going to make a big fuss when the dust settles this season and sees us at #1.

I don't think him being fired means his fate is/was tied to Bryce. Andy Dalton has looked frankly just as bad the last couple weeks as Bryce Young. It hasn't mattered if it was a bad young QB or a vet. O is garbage....behind one of the highest paid and better OLs in the NFL. That's a Canales problem. Personally, I think it all stems back to Tepper setting things up for failure day 1. I was actually ok w/ the rah rah cheerleader type but a first time HC (whose experience is 1 year as a meh OC) did not need to also be calling plays. That never made sense. Canales should of hired a real OC. To call plays. While he figured out the HC part. To me, that is why he has no O after the first scripted series. Canales isn't a good playcaller and he is in overhead trying to be everything. Which makes him good at nothing. He isn't calling good plays, managing the game well, etc.