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People also were just bending over their backs to defend everything about Matt Rhule. I think the lack of reporting/eyeballs because of COVID made that defense possible because there was really no way to know what was going on in house then given how limited things were. I think going into that next season when camps were back open to the reporters, with Teddy's messaging in my mind, it was pretty glaring how in over his head Matt Rhule was if you wanted to see it. For awhile it was always some else's fault. Teddy was the idiot. Then it was Joe Brady. Took folks longer than it should of to be like.....oh wait, it's the head guy running the show that doesn't know what he is doing. I also don't think Matt Rhule is the villain some want him to be. I think generally speaking, most of Rhule's players liked him as a human. He just had no clue how to do the NFL thing. Tepper just can't get it right. Rhule was the HC that needed Jim Caldwell/Capers. Then he gave that to the HC that didn't need it in Frank. But I do think through all the hires and fires, you can see evidence of Tepper trying to get the puzzle.

Mike Davis is like yeah, why would these coaches expect me to watch film on our next opponent if I'm playing good. Yeah, I really don't pay attention to a lot of stuff around me if I'm doing good. also Mike Davis, how dare they give all the reps to CMC. from just listening to that interview, I think Mike Davis likely was often in Mike Davis' way and he can't comprehend that aspect. Even his story of why he hated people.....was weird. He hated Steve Spurrier because Spurrier was like hey Mike, Marcus Lattimore left...and we need you to step up into that role/void and be more for us. And Mike Davis was like, can you believe that motha trucka!! Nah Steve. Just give me the ball and leave me alone (paraphrasing it all obviously but that was the gist).

what I took most from that interview in general….is I don’t think I would actually like Mike Davis. at one point the hosts on the show basically called him out that he dislikes everyone Mike Davis actually seems like the bad teammate who seemed genuinely confused about why he would need to do basic work if he had played well

Totally missed Mike Vick somehow becoming a college head coach

sort looking forward to the SC vs VT highlights. I mean, Beamer basically has to script up a Beamer Ball play that game I would think…..seems like it should be required

Canales is 100% drafting dudes for on O that fits what his passers did in Tampa and Seattle. Bryce Young just doesn’t push the ball downfield. Baker, Geno and Russell were all above league in pushing the ball downfield with big shots. All were above league average in yards per attempt with Canales. Bryce was 34th last yards per attempt last year. And that’s why even when the “good” Bryce existed the Panthers pass O was still pedestrian overall. The volume isn’t there. And Canales’ O is too bland for the deep shots to not offset that. And Bryce’s bad throw % in this O is just way too high given the scheme is already built on lower % throws.

I think you can find Hunter talking about it somewhere but it always sounded like it was always a uniquely Carolina specific comeback. Scratch the last football itch while also keeping his family life here intact and in place. and I bet the current Panther ambiguous plan just ain’t the offer for him to come back to football.

only 1 QB in the history of mankind has managed a winning record with his opportunities in the David Tepper era. Bring in PJ. He has NFL tools. He will at least be entertaining if called upon. How is that not better than Andy. *PJ Walker bandwagon is back up now that it is....not...time for for the percolator.

decent odds the present cycle continues. Where you might not draft the QB and go the random available vet route like we tried in the Teddy or Darnold/Baker route. We most certainly can't afford to move up in a draft go get "our guy". The roster is still paying the price for that type move last time.

I mean, he did miss 7 games.....and still almost lead the Panthers in every statistical production category.

I mean, Clausen stayed but he wasn't a former top pick. Fields, Wilson, Lance, Pickett, Rosen, Haskins, etc. Not sure any top pick can really can stay once a team moves on to the next top pick. Gotta to think Bryce would be shipped off.

I mean, I would assume....you are intentionally missing the point. The point of bringing up Teddy was merely to bring up a very recent example......of trying to wish a QB who clearly is a specific type of QB...into something different. Which fans did that here as well. Teddy was a risk adverse, checkdown QB. But if that was brought up when folks wanted him to be something different, they would attack you for saying such. It's ALSO why I brought up Jake as well in the same post. You might want Jake to be less risk adverse.....it might work occasionally.....but Jake would always be Jake at the end of the day. If your QB is a round peg, and you want/need him to be a square peg..... that's a largely a waste of time. If your offense needs a square peg QB, you should get a square peg QB. I have no interest in rehashing how loud and wrong you were about the Frank Reich and Matt Rhule seasons at this exact point in time in those seasons....and your high horse approach of how dare folks question the powers that be entering those years. Be a goldfish. I have enjoyed our annual preseason disagreement. As always.

you can't turn Teddy Bridgwater into a gunslinger just because that's what you want. It's DNA and tools. It's pretty simple. You can try to make the best of what you have though. Trying to make it work, doesn't change what Teddy naturally is. Remember, folks argued that silly one too. But it's the same logic here. It's like saying, you know what Jake.....let's no longer gamble. That's over. We are just taking the safe checkdown. Get it out nice and quick. Sure, it might work here or there. But eventually he gonna see 89 in triple coverage downfield and say fug it. round pegs are round pegs. round holes are round holes. we have seen people trying to force them forever......but the saying exist for a reason. They generally are what they are. the Luke comment was just a fun nod and trying to wrap this up friendly, I was trying to largely let you off the hook on all of your very stern lectures of the Tepper era we are in.....and how horribly wrong you have been there about what was coming. Guess you got the goldfish thing going on with all those. I would too.

Bit of a coin flip but I think you gotta favor Clemson in that one. Clemson probably rolling w/ the best overall roster in college football this year. Everyone returning essentially. At home. At night. LSU obviously has Brian Kelly as a HC and it's opening weekend. So, that's what it is. Plus, LSU got all sorts of new players and bodies everywhere to figure out. I do think the Clemson game will be the best of the big games from a pure entertainment aspect. And as a Clemson fan, best time to catch LSU is right now vs later when they figure things out more.

3 games this weekend featuring matchups of top 10 teams? Heck yeah! and most of the more popular local teams got some fun looking matchups as well. Really need to prep the wife about how little I plan to do for her this weekend.

yeah, what people are isn't irrelevant. Even your link acknowledges the square peg/round hole situation. the entire argument boils down to...but the round hole is trying to make the square peg work. And yeah, it can lead to some improvement when you try to make things that don't fit....sorta fit. But generally they never actually fit because one is naturally a square peg and one is a round hole. So it's making the best of a situation that really isn't supposed to be paired up. I'm in the present. But I have looked back at the scorecard for your annual preseason lectures though.....and it ain't a great record for you but it's all love. We will always have that magical season where we united on Luke Kuechly before the rest of the board did.

I mean, no was arguing BY fits the offensive passing tree Canales is in….. when we drafted BY. You are doing it now just because that’s the round peg/square hole reality that exists and you essentially always argue this time do the year the Panthers plan is strong

I don't like round pegs and square holes. I can be find with either. You just have to pick one. It's been that simple from the start. Carolina remains in the round peg/square hole phase of life. again, you are fixated like most Bryce supporters on how passes are graded. Again, Teddy Bridgewater can grade well on the deep passes overall he happens to make. If he grades well on those select passes.....that doesn't somehow magically mean he isn't checking down out there is isn't pulling trigger when he needs to. The well graded deep pass doesn't make Teddy a gunslinging chunk passer playing the way a scheme would need him to. They remain two different things. his deep ball at Bama wasn't good. That's not my soapbox but you can find threads on that too where that he been discussed in detail. He just could just make off target throws to wide open dudes.

Norv's "efficient" Cam was my least favorite Cam. CMC got 100+ balls both those seasons and it was way to much just checking down to CMC for me. Depends who my QB is. Efficient just wasn't what I was fixated on with Cam. Tailoring to Cam allowed Cam to be special. It was fun. Best time to be a Panther fan.

because scheme, fit and what you ask of different players matter in the NFL. It's more important than talent often. Where QBs land often determines their success. Peyton Manning and Cam Newton can both be great. But you can put Cam in scenarios/schemes where he would suck. Same for Peyton. I mean, if Washington asked Daniels to run what Joe Flacco did his last year in Clev.....it doesn't go as well for Daniels last year. If you asked Joe Flacco to run this year what Daniels did last year doesn't work. I have been consistent, if you were going to draft a unicorn then go all in on that and give it a go. We never did. It's why I compared Bryce to Cam. It had to be a Bryce centric O and not inserting him into old man football. They compare in needing the scheme and ask to factor in their playstyle. Cam needed a Cam tailored O. And if you are going to run these old schemes and play....then don't waste our time w/ Bryce.

From day 1, I have maintained the Panthers org has screwed Bryce Young and set him up for failure. People got mad that I was insulting Frank Reich and that super team. Some folks in this very thread were lecturing me very hard about how wrong I was going into that Frank season. and I have said the same thing about attempt #2 from day 1. The org is setting Bryce Young for failure. And just like the Frank Reich era, people get mad about me saying he doesn't fit what Canales does and wants from his QB. So....yeah, I disagree with your framing there. I have pinned most of the blame on Carolina. Not Bryce Young.

no no no. Bryce Young is apparently Jake Delhomme. Or maybe Brett Favre. Russell Wilson I guess? I don't know, panthers55 will make sure we get it right.

I mean, we can talk about typical. You are randomly making a stand that Bryce freaking Young....is a deep chunk pass gunslinger? I mean THAT is comedy. Go sell that somewhere that isn't the huddle and tell me how it goes. We have already done deep factual dives on Canales and his tree. We have done it on Bryce. None of this talk is new. Go search the huddle. And I for one am not deep diving into things that have already been done because you want to pretend it all hasn't been.

Almost as funny as Carolina Panther homers before a season kicks off My preseason calls under Tepper have played out at a high percentage. It's so easy. When things smell odd....they 99% of the time are just that. Just go with that.

this is where the Bryce defense goes off the rails for me. We all know Bryce isn't a deep ball chunk play QB. He doesn't have those physical tools and he doesn't play the game w/ that mindset. It simply is not what he is. Then you got folks going essentially going, well actually Shaq was a very efficient 3 pt shooter this season. He shot 50% from behind the arc and Steph Curry was only at 48%. So yeah, Shaq is a very effective 3 pt shooter. Don't say he isn't a 3 point shooter. Meanwhile, Shaq went 1 of 2 on the season and Steph shot 9343924 3s. Russell Wilson is a deep ball chunk QB. Baker is. Geno was his comeback season (best in the league that year I think is the correct call). That's the Canales pass tree. EVERY QB throws deep at some point. Arguing you can find a good grade when they went deep one week is just that. No one can argue Bryce plays the game like a young Wilson throwing f you hail marys downfield. Jake Delhomme fits Canales more than any Carolina Panther QB. Teddy Bridgewater can grade out efficiently on his deep passes. That doesn't make him a deep ball chunk QB. 2 totally different convos. It would be better for everyone IMO if our org accepted what the unicorn was and built a team around that given they invested so much in him.....which is the criticism I started day 1 when they put him in Frank Reich's offense. He didn't fit that. He doesn't fit the Canales tree either. NFL is about fit more than anything and it's what Carolina gets most wrong. We essentially run offenses we don't have the QB talent for and you can say the same w/ the 3-4 D. That's the Bryce era.