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I endorse it for this kid. you then go BS your coach about what you saw. I'm not saying just go throw into double coverage just because a vertical existed in the progression. But yeah, I'd be putting an emphasis on being aggressive and trying to get to the plays with bigger potential. It's basically just the polar opposite of playing it safe. You can play it safe and it be the wrong play too. Just nothing completions for the stat sheet. That's not going to help this kid.

yeah, but if you got some real wiggle room there. It's not like you are calling your own plays and completely ignoring the coach. That would get you cut automatically. But you gave me the play. I ran it. X looked open. I didn't like how Y looked That happens all the time in football. It's an audition for him. A chance. Panthers have been forced into starting him tonight for some unknown reason. That's not his problem. Why shouldn't he take advantage of the opportunity. I want to be entertained by the play of Panthers. That's literally what this whole thing is. Entertainment. Nothing else. They provide little of that. So yeah, I would prefer entertainment tonight. I'll route for that. And Canales isn't going to entertain us with amazing play calling. That's a given. So big plays by nobodies is what I'll root for. That's there shot. It doesn't matter how well Plummer runs some bullshit play to a WR that isn't going to make the team that goes for 4 yards and they punt.

all we got is what we got. and every O (no exception) he has been involved with on this level has featured it as a main component in the pass game. so again, that's all we got to go off on. well, and his very first investment being a WR that fits that style of play. and I don't think Canales champions himself as some offensive whiz. So I assume what he has been around his entire NFL career likely is what he is. Until proven otherwise. I'll gladly be wrong though. But anything else is just imagination IMO. Which I don't do with this team anymore.

i've never been a fan of the HC/playcaller setup. And this is a SUPER green variation of that combo.

No one said that though. That's different. I said he should quickly go to the routes in the progression to the ones with the biggest play potential.

I mean, if he is operating within the playcall.....and making the plays? That's literally what he is supposed to do. But yeah, if he goes down in a blaze of glory he probably gets cut. But he has no future going 8-14 for 42 yards on bullshit throws in reality anyway. Too big of a long shot. I mean, promoting himself is basically what this opportunity is and should be for him. It's the NFL.

frankly, I wouldn't even listen to the coach if I was Plummer about being safe. I'd be instantly moving to the route in the progression that offered the biggest play. I'd totally take the go big or go home approach. This fanbase is so starved for big plays....he would be an instant favorite.

I watch the US women's soccer team pretty consistently whether it be World Cup or Olympics. Better than mens soccer. But outside of that, just give an old school Sportscenter run down of what occurred. Some cool moments like the Americans in the 1500m run the other day.

Panther bot is evolving! Johnny 5 is alive! Panther bot already looking ahead to 2028. It isn't dumb after all.

I'm not so sure OL would have change much outside of running the football easier. I'll say that. Not sure it drastically changes the pass game. WRs couldn't run last year. O calls were predictable. Bryce flat out has issues even in a good traditional pocket (that affords average protection time). I don't really think the rookies will impact much the first half of the season.

Patrick Mahomes to Josh Allen to Caleb Williams....all the names you can watch this weekend play football. Sounds like the goal is about a quarter for most.

we are still largely the same clown show. This isn't a rebuild. We basically changed offensive playcaller and scheme. Same owner, largely the same front office outside of a face swap, same QB, same O advisor, same D staff.

I don’t know much about Plummer, just based on his highlight tape from last year he does look downfield though. downfield QBs are at least entertaining one way or the other

Yeah, which doesn’t sound like a formula for much success. Seattle needed those YOLO plays and while old man Brees was successful he was a legit top 10 all time QB going into that neutered brand of football…..not just some hyped up super processors (which we while Bryce is smart isn’t actually that)

every offense he has been involved with has relied on chunk pass plays downfield. Not just relied on them but more often than not tops of the league as well. That’s not a good pairing for Bryce now you could argue he suddenly do something different but to date he has never been around a successful O that didn’t rely on it. and his first major investment was a downfield jump ball WR so that leads me to believe that’s still his ideal brand of football. Hope I’m wrong and he is some grand wizard and invents something Bryce would thrive in….but I’m a need to see it guy at this point to believe it

How I feel as we roll into the preseason

this picture sums up the pinnacle of the David Tepper era

in all honesty, I just want him out there so that reality comes quicker rather than later. Bryce Young might of worked out in some ideal landing spot. He isn't going to work here. We have already seen that. And this is about to a real bad marriage of putting him into a Canales O.

yeah, but I think it is still the big picture red flags of us remaining poorly run. In many ways. This is prime developmental time. Prime get ready time. And we spend our time doing mental gymnastics about why the Panthers not doing the obvious is okay. Meanwhile, they just confirmed Patrick Mahomes and KC are playing their starters for the opening quarter this weekend. I mean, that's what preseason is. Outside of hosting a team for a week that can skew it....the first 2 preseason games are what you use to get ready. That's the new model in the 3 game era. Not the 3rd game. There isn't a good coach in the NFL that is going to sit a bad 2nd year player in the preseason. That's just not the signs of a well functioning team. Not saying it's all Bryce. But it's a clear sign we aren't in a good spot today IMO.

well, we already know the #1 overall pick from last year won't play we know our 1st and 2nd round picks this year ain't playing. We can watch the Pats starters and all their QBs rep though. Outside of that, no clue what the Panthers are willing to show

isn't the new general consensus that preseason 1 and 2 are the games you actually should be using your starters in. Dip the toe game 1, real work game 2, rest game 3. Joint practice skews that some but overall teams aren't looking to get banged up in the 3rd one to ensure the healthy start of the season.

Young needs to be developed. That's why he should be getting preseason reps now. Not only developed, he has to learn this O. That's another reason he needs rep now. The evaluation is going to be really easy if you just wait to play him in the regular season. It will be bad. That's why he needs to be developing and learning before the season starts. Like every team does with young, green and bad QBs. They play and develop them. Not hold them out like some ancient version of Peyton Manning. only thing I get, is Canales gets that Bryce Young would look bad presently in an uncontrolled scenario. Which is fine. He shouldn't look good in live action in Canales brand new O. Go ahead and start working out what he can and can't do in it.

Bryce just had nothing to benefit from by throwing. He knew Carolina or Houston would take him. Throwing had 0 chance of helping and could only hurt him. So he didn't throw. That's different than being the consensus #1 overall QB though of 32 teams. The bad teams at the top dictate the convo. Bryce's size and skill set alone would obviously make him not #1 for many teams and schemes. He isn't a generic fits all offenses QB. Tons of teams paid zero attention to him in reality to even rank the top guys. Plenty of teams weren't going to invest any energy into breaking down Stroud, Young, etc. Fruitless time and energy. Can go all the way back to Cam. Everyone slated Cam to go #1 overall leading up to the draft....but only once people basically knew Carolina was going to take him. Change who is at the top of the draft, Cam easily could of had an epic fall.

people calling this conservative are deep in the cope spiral of denial. Conservative is what Andy Reid is with Mahomes. And Mahomes basically got the same overall volume of work as a ROOKIE Bryce did last season but got it in just 2 preseason games. I think it clear, Bryce can't do what the team needs him to do yet. And that gets highlighted when you aren't in control and an opposing D takes away Bryce's bread and butter and goes after him. Too much of what Canales' base is plays to things Bryce is bad at. They are protecting Bryce and frankly Canales from having to do deal with it all at this stage. It's not conservative QB management. You do think with Cousins or Mahomes or someone like that. Great QBs, old QBs, injured players. Not bad 2nd year QBs.