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No matter who is on the field…..1 career road win

The plan/change/philosophy seems problematic….when a good or just not bad rushing defense shows up. Also highlights why Tepper should throw that picture and thought process in the trash

Jalen Hurts was pulling it off w/ Miles Sanders. You poo'd on Hubbard as not being enough for him.

Bro, the highest paid OL AND Chubba is a dang good setup. That's what Bryce had last year. Rico Dowdle doing some historical poo for 2 weeks this year, doesn't mean Hubbard isn't a rock solid RB. See.....this is what Bryce defending does. So much gymnastics that you end up where you just did. Hurts was going to playoffs and Super Bowls with Miles Sanders at RB. Saquon just icing on a cake that was fine without it.

We got the highest paid OL in the NFL, with good RBs to play with the past 2 years. Jalen Hurts could just read option and make some safe throws and the O would be more productive than it has been w/ Bryce.

some QBs can do more than pass and it's about being a QB. So you can't cut the diversity in everyone's game out of the equation just because Bryce's size makes it all a bad idea for him. First down is a first down. TD is a TD. If some QBs are very good at picking those up on the ground they matter. Chains move. O keeps getting produced. Dudes like Trevor got more first down picks up the ground than any Panther RB. Being built to go up the middle, take got contact, get a first and survive matters. You don't have to be Lamar Jackson for ability and attributes to do things besides passing to matter.

why rig the scenario with the "as a passer" tag. I mean, I assume you do that because Bryce needs help in the argument. If we are just talking players and no contacts? I mean, give me Young over Russell Wilson. That's it. I'd put him on par w/ Penix, Fields, McCarthy and Rattler, so that's a wash. Give me everyone else over Bryce. And I'm not handicapping the other players as passing only because when you start doing that it's really meaningless.

he doesn't have the arm to make all the throws, the premier QBs make. That's a fact. So there are plays that won't exist for him that will for others. To act like every QB in the NFL can make all the same throws isn't a stance anyone actually takes.....yet folks are doing it for Bryce.

Because 2 coaches have not allowed him to do it. And in a real Hail Mary scenario the throw is further than the clip shown and likey doesn’t allow a clean setup. You can’t go over the top. So you have to let WRs get downfield and the technical throw is going to be further and as you have to drop back to by time and likely won’t have an ideal setup.

I remember one of Aaron Rodgers big hail marys was caught by the son of a Panthers coach. Rodgers. A TE. Hail marys are that. They aren't thrown to Tyreek Hill burning a DB. They are jump ball scrums to piles of humans. We got dudes to pull off that simple play....just not the QB to get it there.

I think some choose to give oxygen and attention to bad tiny voices. Pretending those tiny voices are the collective voice is whack. That's my take and it extends to all topics. Cam Newton is my GOAT. I called for PJ Walker over Sam Darnold. Bryce Young has been about as unsuccessful as any top QB in the NFL history...and THAT is why the masses talk about him.

Aaron Rodgers is 41 years old and with relative ease put one up 70 yards in the air last night for hail mary atttempt. 50 yards out and we have to bring in backup or run screen pass to Tommy Tremble

I'm at least in the running for Bryce's biggest hater. I was stanning for Cam before it was cool, he is my all time GOAT. Cam is how I got my kids into football. Most Bryce's haters are me. And to pretend otherwise, and try to make that the convo.... is whack. pretending some small horrible voices that don't deserve oxygen is what is "really going on" is whack.

I'll be honest, Dave went to such great coaching efforts to get us in position for the hail mary attempt I was actually sort of excited to see what Bryce had in him. I felt for sure Dave was going to flat out get that debate settled. I mean, how could he not. And then.......all that for a Tommy Tremble screen lol.

Frank and Canales have both told everyone Bryce can't throw the hail mary.

lol, how do you lecture folks about not watching games and then not know about Bryce being taken out for a hail mary? and yeah, Cam got subbed out because the coach knew he didn't have the arm for it. That's what coaches do when you don't have the arm for it.

I also wouldn't say Bryce has a stronger arm than them. Arm strength probably on par.....but Burrow just a vastly superior passer than both of them. Jalen obviously one of the premier QBs on the ground. Then we have our guy.....who doesn't actually have a trait that makes him stand out.

that's a wild statement. Bryce had the most expensive OL in the NFL last year and it was healthy. With a solid backfield. Which is what every QB wants.

Cam would put a towel on his head when things were going great. Towel was largely a media thing. It existed no matter what was happening. I actually loved the fact Cam was such a horrible loser. I hated everyone seemed so fixated on making him a good loser. That was part of of what made him tick. Bad w/ the good.

they paid Jake Delhomme.....after Tommy Jone....and after this...

I do not believe a person exists that here that literally says he can't throw 20 yards. I say he can't. Because statistically, he rarely does it vs his peers and the results when he does are way worse than his peers. And IMO you can clearly see NFL Ss cheat coverage assignments because of it which then makes the intermediate stuff harder. Results are all that matter and we are 3 years in to the show.

I was looking at CFF ....XL grades out as one of the best in big time routes during the month of October. He also doesn't have a lot around him. It's not like Peyton Manning is throwing the ball, with Kyle Shanahan is calling the plays or something. He has a bunch of losers around him. Some would say it's the worst spot any WR could of gone to. I would appreciate it if you unhappy miserable people would quit insulting Xavier and be real Panther fans. Spurs Up!

yeah, I can get a little of that. But that's not what he is posting in his argument just now though. He said people wouldn't even concede to the literal ability to do it when pressed on the literal ability. I have never seen that. He maintains it exists somewhere. I mean, using anomaly games to make arguments about players just isn't the way. There wasn't a defender within 10 yards of our guys on 2 of those 3 throws Sunday. No one within 5 on the 3rd. That's not Bryce Young answering questions about his play downfield.. That's Bryce Young taking advantage of coverage busts by a bad D. Which hey, that's part of the game too. Recognition and seeing the field. It can't totally be dismissed. That's still good play. You want your QBs to make those plays. But it's not getting into the long standing critique of BY IMO.

Did you see how quickly and easily I addressed I didn’t mean he literally couldn’t throw the ball? it’s hard to imagine anyone arguing he literally couldn’t do it and being serious. I haven’t seen it. He claims it exists somewhere

LMAO.... criticizing Bryce for his inability play the game beyond 20 yards....is not arguing he literally can't throw the ball 20 yards. you can also check my posts where I have detailed his 20+ yard throws in 2024 and in 2025 and his success rate doing. Looking at his 20+ yard throws (which clearly isn't denying the literal ability to do it), is how the argument he is dogwater and can't play beyond 20 yards is crafted.