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that booing home ground has proven to get folks at BoA in the Tepper era tinkering around. Everyone isn’t a diehard crazy. Tepper still needs casuals in their seats enjoying a good time as well. He also doesn’t like folks talking about the booing crowd around the nation. Or even in his backyard. Tepper is definitely aware of his things are viewed. plus, unless you plan to get rid of everyone….you sort of have to mitigate how bad it gets. Tinkering and change is at least trying in Tepper’s eyes IMO. It’s why there is so much constant change with both his pro teams.

He plays small. I mean there is nothing bad XL does. He just doesn’t get open and isn’t a 50/50 guy…so it’s all just bad or contested passes. I think if you give TMac the same routes it plays out slightly different because of how he handles the routes

Schedule matters. Home crowd. Let’s hypothetically say Bryce remains the same as the last 2 weeks (garbage time excluded) after Atlanta we go back on the road. So I really don’t see the org benching him when they head back out and vs a weaker team again. after that I think is the real window. Panthers comeback home and if they lose to Miami? The crowd could get really worked up and they got Dallas coming into BOA the next week That Dallas game is the one I think they would be really worried about the optics. If Bryce is still relatively bad and they lose to Miami I think he gets a break for Dallas. Crowd could get too out of whack. 60% Dallas fans and then the small amount of Panther fans being upset creates bad PR/TV * I largely want him to just play but I could see a little mix up at QB and going back to him

lol. Just had to check. Megatron wasn’t even the 3 peat of first round WRs. That came after they finally moved on from Harrington. Megatron was the 4th WR in 5 years Talk about insanity.

Harrington is a nice example. We already have matched the 2 first round WRs. Bryce stans would probably want us to make it 3 in a row like the Lions and give Bryce one more shot like Harrington. I sort of forgot about how nuts the Lions went there

Brees went 8-8 as a starter year 1. THAT alone kills Brees from the convo. Because that’s not being horrible for a the stretch Bryce has been. Thats a solid first year as a starter. and that makes his sophomore slump season bearable because you have already seen solid play (which Bryce doesn’t have) year 3 he wins 11 games. Brees represents a very normal pattern. Solid first year. Sophomore slump. Breakout.

Brees went 8-8 his first year as starter. Holy cherry pick lol.

1. He is too small. Have you not seen the fact the ball has been flying out of his hands the past 2 Sundays? You know we can't really QB sneak in Carolina right? I mean is he maybe a little tougher than some might think? Sure. But that doesn't mean he isn't too small. 2. He can't make all the throws and many of his throws just flat out stink. His vertical and sideline throws generally stink. See week 1. I can't say see week 2 because he didn't attempt any. You doing a whole lot of ignoring week 1 and letting one okay ball to a LOT of talking. Essentially every ball minus one that went downfield stunk. 3. now you are getting into that 2024 PFF deep ball nonsense and I'm not doing anymore of that.

and let's just all agree Canales is good looking/talking Matt Rhule. actually you know what, Matt Rhule would at least give some folks a light trashing

oh, he 100% is useless as a WR. It's why I have been calling him Shenault. But Dave isn't creative enough in his scheme to really work anything to let an athlete be an athlete. When Coker is back he should take his job. And until then, the #87 should be taking his reps. If Dave is giving #87 some of XL's reps off Sunday alone, just quit pretending to be coach.

I'm a little torn on how bad he was or wasn't Sunday. His stat line was horrific. Biggest issue, is XL can't really get himself open. And when he does get the 50/50 shot he doesn't rally play to his size and doesn't win. But nothing actually horrific. and Dave's attempts to scheme him a play where whack.

No decrease in snaps coming. Canales said Leggette played better.....(while making history in a bad way Sunday) per Sheena

Baker Mayfield was the leading rusher when they played Atlanta and they limited him to 167 pass yards.

is it hard to imagine? We would be 3 games in to 2025 2024 - 2 games in 2023 - 2 games in IMO but some would say 6 2022 - 5 games in change has been coming early of late in Panther land.

true, bringing in functional competition could be out there too. Whatever it would be, IMO will be 100% Tepper driven (not Dave or Morgan)

I think you will see some sort of shakeup. I don't know what that is. But the boo birds will most definitely come out and be loud. And historically, David Tepper HATES that. I think if you read the room, the Panther fanbase will not have tons of patience this Sunday. Hard to guess what it could be as how we lay an egg would influence the shakeup. I think Evero is in play (I personally think he is only employed to be a sacrificial lamb) I think Canales turning playcalling over is in play (we saw those orders before) I think if Bryce has 2-3 turnover day with some ugly ones a game off could be in play If you can hear the boos loudly on TV, in the stadium and we get embarrassed, Tepper is going to have a very stern Monday morning meeting.

you called the post that he only turned on his "baller switch" in garbage time a lie....and listed games in the same post. there was a separate post where I said we haven't been competitive w/ Bryce. so we probably are mushing the two things together. As far as the non-competitive statement, no we haven't been competitive with Bryce. We are 6-24 with Bryce. That's not competitive. Was the AZ game last year competitive and did we win? Sure. That wasn't because of Bryce. Was the Eagles game close? Sure. That wasn't because of Bryce, Bryce played poorly. That was because the Eagles laid an egg and kept it close.

the problem with the we need more time mindset as this point.......is we know time will not change many issues Bryce Young has. Most importantly, he just flat out doesn't have the physical tools you want in a NFL QB. And those issues are at the foundation of why he is such a bad QB to date.

He was horrible all game....except the window AZ let him take checkdowns to bleed the clock away. It really can't be viewed any other way. personally, I hate the strategy AZ employed because it can lead to exactly what we saw if your O falters. You essentially are letting a team back in by design.

but you specifically were alluding to games Bryce was able to flip a switch and balled in....when it wasn't garbage time. You protested that he didn't only flip the switch and ball in garbage time and listed games. just naming a close game doesn't equate to Bryce therefore balled. Which is what I was calling out. He didn't "ball out" in those games I selected from your list. Bar is so weirdly low w/ Bryce.

it's not apples to apples as Keary Colbert's rookie season was better....but XL is about to make Colbert's sophomore regression look like nothing.

The Panthers have been the opposite of competitive under Bryce Young.

yeah, looks like we finally hit on a classic Marty Hurney type first round pick. It's been awhile since we have had that.

as bad the the defense is.....they allowed points on just 2 drives (10 points) Sunday where the drive started in AZ territory. We all know we got a bad defense.... but the Panthers O allowed a TD Cards started a drive on the Carolina 48 (FG) Cards started a drive on the Carolina 45 (TD) D is really bad.... but a lot of those Cardinal points were just exclusively because our D stinks.