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True. Buts that’s why I say I hate the pay given what you/we do with him. If you can do it….erasing a #1 WR is more valuable than erasing a fraction of the field. Opponents simply can dictate who covers their dominant players and weaker players. we pay him like his is a WR eraser. And we don’t use him as such nor actually know if he could/is one

Hard to make it in the NFL even with all the textbook tools. If you don’t have them, bad odds get even worse.

The real point made in the Barnwell piece….is how fans over value AT. It doesn’t exist elsewhere. The 4th only exists because it’s the Vikings. It’s like the Burns for 2 1sts deal. It’s just a random window that you won’t find again. No team is offering a 4th for AT but the Vikings and we are making the easy hard. 4th is a good deal

Yeah, and LinvilleGeorge

Get well soon!

was someone offering a 4th for him then? Because the same would have applied. We pulled him out of retirement with a big fat check. He was done. * and the only reason a 4th is being offered with because it’s Minny and they need a WR. No one else looking to pluck AT from us. More often than not, the Panthers talk themselves into bad deals. And when good deals come there way….they pass. *Mingo is the drunk unicorn outlier for how we do business

Teddy simply said water was wet…..and the huddle all sided with Matt Rhule for firing him over outing that we were a dysfunctional poo show.

Teddy Bridgewater is the best QB to play in the entire David Tepper era.

But there is a big difference between trading DJ Moore and trading AT. AT has no future beyond this season. AT was hurt last year and we pulled him out of retirement with a check. AT is the type player you should trade. I’d argue we do it all backwards.

can we just fast forward to the WRs. Not sure much else is of interest really

yep, the worst cut is making the 53 man for just a couple hours.....and then getting cut. I'd rather go out with the first group.

He is a better PS prospect than Jack ever was.

well, nevermind. Reports are Browns are going to keep 4 QBs on the 53. That's wild.

I would assume both Sanders kids will be cut today.

last season he took a hit IMO. Dude never travels, only game I can recall him remotely traveling was last year vs a completely washed Nuk Hopkins and dude was shook. That ultimately is my Horn issue. I think a CB of his pay grade should be a WR eraser. And we have never seen that given he doesn't travel.

add Saunders the year prior who most are excited about. or the best current player on offense, Hubbard.

also, as far as Horn goes......if you predict the Panthers are going to have a trash pass rush....it's tough to predict a corner on that same team is going to have a strong year.

I guess you can question if he can actually perform as such given the weaknesses around him on that front 7 and w/ a year off? If I am an opposing offense, my gameplan upfront is just Derrick Brown. Doing all I can to get to those LBs.

says it's predicting the top 100 for the 2025 season.

I have simply learned to embrace the entertainment in a poorly run org. I either want my team to be good enough for postseason play and that makes folks believe they can make some noise/upset anyone......OR comically bad. I'm talking big picture. Both are entertaining. And I just like to talk sports more than anything. I think the best Charlotte team to follow is Charlotte FC. I mean, even right now....with injuries, trades, etc. They SHOULD be down but they are on a 7 game win streak (hard in soccer) and are real close to locking up a legit playoff spot. I think once Dabo leaves Clemson I will have no real attachment to any sports team. Talking sports is still a healthier hobby than so many other things out there and passes the the day quick while working and waiting around at my kids billion practices.

I think there is a difference between lining up in the slot and being a slot WR. Renfrow is a slot WR. You can line up TMac, XL or Coker in the slot.

No one way to do it, it does appear that with the bigger draft picks of the last 5 years…..majority haven’t steered clear of young QBs on the roster being their hopeful guy. Especially past their rookie seasons but even some the biggest ones have had it early. As far as Andy Dalton, the two young guys he has “mentored”…..have had very rough NFL starts. Which really ask the why the heck is Dalton here. He doesn’t really check any box. No young potential. Can’t step in and win. And his mentor track record with Fields and now Bryce is bad

If Anthony Richardson didn’t exist, Bryce Young would have lead the NFL in bad throw % in both 2023 AND in 2024. bad OL and highest paid OL. Bryce the constant.

I mean, Carolina in their negotiations should have had the Vikings put Howell in their deal. Give AT, get the 4th and Howell…..then negotiate eating cap or a pick swap if needed.

Well, you just look to the next season where Carolina had the most expensive OL in all the NFL…..and I shared with the analytics where the exact same open and yac issues exist there. And he didn’t have 19th string OGs, he had great OGs that suited up all year. I just don’t get why people are dug into over defense of BY. We know he doesn’t have great physical tools. We know he can’t make all the throws. And that is going to lower the ceiling/potential and we know defenses adjust when a QB can’t hit all the throws on the field. He isn’t going to grow a new body/arm. So for me, he is just our QB for now at this point. I’ll pull for him. But I’ll view him like every other player in the big picture people (Bryce defenders) are cool with replacing and upgrading. And then I favor the growth of bigger picture players (which is why I am done with AT). Biggest issue probably is some think this is a team that is about to compete and I view it as a development team