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I think he's credited with 2 actual drops, I'd say 2 were not that hard to catch that probably aren't called drops, but his actual drop% is over 5%. That is not very good, but it's such a small sample size I think that'll go down. I don't think he was credited with a drop vs NE for instance.

Er... what? Stefanski has not been good the last two years, nor has their offense. Stefanski definitely requires a competent QB (no knock on him here). Flacco was miraculously good in 2023, but since, they're one of the few teams with a worse offense than the Panthers. Hell, over that period we've put up 100+ more points than they have...

Disappointing he never amounted to anything, but that 2023 draft... Oof. I guess Zavala has been worth his draft position at least, heh.

He's had some head-scratching drops, but I think he's trying to do too much. There's no way the players don't see what we see with the limitations in the offense, and I can't imagine that is easy on a young playmaker. He's also very clearly being featured... I think I've heard we've gone 'deep' something like 9 times and 7 were to him, lol I am excited to see him and Coker together on the field, because they are very different players but both have promise.

Pretty understandable tbh. Game 1 - Not good by any stretch. Game 2 - Terrible for one half, decent for another. Game 3 - Well, he didn't need to do much, but we won! Game 4 - He legit was just missing people left and right. He threw the ball into an opponents facemask. Dirted another 4th down ball. Just never gave his receivers a chance. A lot of us were pretty negative about his ability to handle pressure (not just the blitzing kind), and he's just shown that he is basically 'just fine' when everything is going right, but can't elevate anything around him. So... We got our answer.

Bryce's intended yards per attempt are waaaay down this year and it isn't as if he's completing his passes further down field. I think something is off with Bryce relative to last year.

I agree that BY has regressed. I think he can't handle the pressure and/or defenses have figured something out regarding his play. I also think BY is showing that he doesn't trust himself. I mean, why would he?

I would have liked us to bring in competition. But, we don't know what Morgan and/or Tepper had to say about that, nor who we could get to come in that would have been a huge upgrade over Dalton. To his credit, if BY is as bad as he seems to be - that handful of games at the end of last season does indicate that Canales may be able to bring out the absolute best in someone, lol.

exactly this. This year's draft class looks decent, so I'm on the fence on Morgan. And if Canales can show end of game with Dalton wasn't just the defense letting up but was actually evidence his offense can work with even a washed up backup vet, then I'd honestly rather let him get a QB of his choosing than go through another carousel ride. Canales getting a third year also benefits the org long term - we need to attract qualified coaches and as you churn through guys it becomes less and less likely you'll land anyone, too. Tepper can shed some of his reputation if he keeps giving the football guys long leashes IMO

the thing is, unless Canales has guarantees on year 3, he could still salvage his HC position if he benches Young and the offense succeeds. He did not draft Young and could plausibly show that he can perform with a different QB. Nobody organizational is playing for draft position this early no matter who is fired or benched tbh

what things do you think he is trying to make Bryce do this year versus last year?

it is a bit exhausting tbh, it's why I've stopped bothering to look into understanding the circumstances and just thrown my hands up. There's just nothing new to add. but the rest of the team is also in such rough shape, hard to be excited. At least we've got a handful of very good players... Just wish we could get something more consistent and competent going as a team.

I dunno man, XL just doesn't seem to care enough/have it. He wasn't lighting things up with Dalton last year, either.

This is a pretty good commentary, though I think the whole comment on contradictory approaches glosses over / ignores the obvious: Canales is in not in charge of personnel outside the offense, and Bryce is SEVERELY limiting what they can do.

Two WRs and a QB among the highest paid. Like unless you're legit drafting OL every pick (they took one in the third and one in the fifth lol) you're going to struggle to put together any semblance of a good OL...

It was a terrible choice... They relied on Burrows miraculous ability to be sacked repeatedly every game and still throw for 300 yards, it felt like. Which is INSANE. It's like the Panthers refusing to really try to get Cam receiving help until it was too late.

I mean TMac is looking like a very solid pick. In fact basically this whole draft is. Honestly drafting QBs is a roll of the dice and BY was going either first or second no matter what (QB hungry) team was drafting there. While I still think Stroud was a better pick, BY is a case of fooling the majority of the league, not just our FO. Xavier Legette is IMO far more damning.

Their D occasionally has a play or two but that OL is atrocious. When people talk about how we don't protect our QB and I turn on the Cincy game while responding to the Huddle... Eesh.

We've reached the "Hot Take: Bryce isn't as bad as everyone thinks, he's probably more like a game manager!" point where special media is generating clicks from how insane that title sounds

He doesn't have a weak leg... He may have control issues. Hard to say. Dude did hit a 57 yarder...

Or the fans, at least. That said, this was the easy stretch of our schedule, so....

Although true he is incredible... He was not particularly great in weeks 1 and 2 either (compared to Past Burrow). As Panthers fans we dream of 113 yards and a TD with no turnovers, but still, that's far below what he usually can do. Something more than just the QB seems off in Cincy.

Four weeks into the season and it's draft position again

Well I didn't remember many advocating that here at all, perhaps as a backup lol. But Browning is just a backup, not some hidden starter.

Meh. The Jets aren't some great team either. And a lot of us have been fans of Fields since college.